Fugged up Need some advice.
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Thanks Aaron, I was just coming in from taking it for a Test ride, So Far no Oil Leakage, Hope it stays that way.. I also Want to Add that this was My Fugg up, The Stabilizer from Throttle up is a good product at a good price. Just got a little over excited in stalling it, Broke the bolt off and Continued to and make a mess of Everything,I should have quit for the nite and tryed again in the morning, But I was having a terible week and wanted this to work out so Like a Jackass, I went after it with a vengance I should have Made that disclaimer in the first post. Thanks all, Todd
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That was was some good advice!
Taps can be removed.
In the worst case sinerio,the tranny would have to be pulled and set up on a mill.
A machinist could remove the broken tap with a carbide end mill.If after removal,a thread insert may have to be installed if the thread is phucked up.
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One thing that will help you get the drill started is to center punch the center of the bolt before you start drilling. This will help keep your drill from walking. Other than that , I agree with johnnyp. I am a machinist also.
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How about Elox?
The best way to remove a hopelessly broken bolt or tap is to use an ELOX machine.
An ELOX machine (Electrical discharge machine) removes the tap or broken fastener by burning it out.
Elox will not harm the or the threaded hole, so all that is needed after the procedure is to re-tap the threads as required, or install a Heli Coil or equivalent.
You can have a broken tap hopelessly stuck in a threaded aluminum machined or cast part, and use an Elox machine to completely remove the tap, without harming the original hole.
The workpiece held in a vice, and an electrode is positioned directly above the center of the tap. The machine tank that the workpiece is contained in is then filled with an oil (coolant) so the workpiece is totally submerged, then the electrode is energized, burning the tap away. The machine feeds the electrode at the proper rate to maintain the proper arc burning the tap until it is gone. The workpiece is removed, and cleaned. You can then install a Heli Coil or re-tap the hole as required.
I was an engineer in the aerospace industry (at one of the major manufacturers) for 38 years, and will attest that this is the best way to remove a broken tap. Sometimes it is faster to Elox a broken tap than to expend hours working on it with other methods. It is far more economic to Elox a small tap than to try to remove it by mechanical methods.
You should be able to find this capability in the yellow pages or on line.
I understand that money is tight, but this might be your only option to remove the broken tap and bolt.
Good luck with it.
An ELOX machine (Electrical discharge machine) removes the tap or broken fastener by burning it out.
Elox will not harm the or the threaded hole, so all that is needed after the procedure is to re-tap the threads as required, or install a Heli Coil or equivalent.
You can have a broken tap hopelessly stuck in a threaded aluminum machined or cast part, and use an Elox machine to completely remove the tap, without harming the original hole.
The workpiece held in a vice, and an electrode is positioned directly above the center of the tap. The machine tank that the workpiece is contained in is then filled with an oil (coolant) so the workpiece is totally submerged, then the electrode is energized, burning the tap away. The machine feeds the electrode at the proper rate to maintain the proper arc burning the tap until it is gone. The workpiece is removed, and cleaned. You can then install a Heli Coil or re-tap the hole as required.
I was an engineer in the aerospace industry (at one of the major manufacturers) for 38 years, and will attest that this is the best way to remove a broken tap. Sometimes it is faster to Elox a broken tap than to expend hours working on it with other methods. It is far more economic to Elox a small tap than to try to remove it by mechanical methods.
You should be able to find this capability in the yellow pages or on line.
I understand that money is tight, but this might be your only option to remove the broken tap and bolt.
Good luck with it.
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OOPS, IT APPEARS THAT I AM TOO LATE HERE ANYWAY.
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The product thsat Nightking is describing is called the "Grabit" from the Alden Corp.
See it at www.aldn.com
My wife gave me the set after we saw it advertised on TV. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but feel that it would be very helpful in some situations.
The set contains sizes from #1 to #4, roughly corresponding to Easy Out sizes.
It is less expensive than Elox, and might do the job.
They also have several other broken screw extaction device you might find useable and interesting.
See it at www.aldn.com
My wife gave me the set after we saw it advertised on TV. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but feel that it would be very helpful in some situations.
The set contains sizes from #1 to #4, roughly corresponding to Easy Out sizes.
It is less expensive than Elox, and might do the job.
They also have several other broken screw extaction device you might find useable and interesting.
Last edited by hcubed; Aug 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM. Reason: Added other products from Alden
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Well I took all of your Advice and everything was going great except the bolt was in THere Crooked, Thats probably why it broke, So Of corse I could not get the Extracter to work so I decided to drill in out completly and Tap and die the hole and put a different Bolt in there so away I go Feeling pretty confident and then it Happened, The GOD DAMN Tap Broke off in there. WTF, So Now what the Hell do I do, I was up till 3:30 am this morning trying to figure it out? Any Help GREATLY appreciated, Got bandaids on all fingers and the Gal and kid won't come neer the garage. Thanks, Todd
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