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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Question Replacing '09 California Header Question

I have a California '09 with stock exhaust and I'm thinking about pulling off the catalytic equipped headpipe and exchanging it for a 49 state version without the cat. I'm already running a PCV so the O2 sensors are disabled anyway. What I'm trying to accomplish is to reduce the amount of heat coming off the exhaust system and I'm assuming the cat equipped header has got to be a bunch hotter than the non-cat version.

So, three questions:

1. does anyone see any problem with this other than the obvious legal ramifications?

2. has anyone already done this and did it in fact reduce the amount of heat?

3. does removing the cats increase the exhaust noise appreciably?

Any insight is appreciated

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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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I too am interested in the answer to your questions.

I'd also like to know where you plan on getting a 49-state head pipe from. Are you going to get it for full price from the dealer, or do you have other sources?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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I've thought about doing this, but then I thought, why not just go true duals?

Anyways, I ended up drilling mine out. I did notice it become slightly louder. Didn't notice any difference in the heat.
 
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No idea at this point. Zanotti was about $371.

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I too am interested in the answer to your questions.

I'd also like to know where you plan on getting a 49-state head pipe from. Are you going to get it for full price from the dealer, or do you have other sources?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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No difference in the heat? Bummer! Not worth doing, then.

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I've thought about doing this, but then I thought, why not just go true duals?

Anyways, I ended up drilling mine out. I did notice it become slightly louder. Didn't notice any difference in the heat.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by r8rs4lf
Anyways, I ended up drilling mine out. I did notice it become slightly louder. Didn't notice any difference in the heat.

Ditto. A little louder, but that may be psychological. Doesn't seem to be any cooler.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bamorris2
I'd also like to know where you plan on getting a 49-state head pipe from. Are you going to get it for full price from the dealer, or do you have other sources?
I just put a 2-into-1 exhaust on my '09 Street Glide. Could it be that the 49 state (non-cat) low-mileage headpipe I took off is worth more than I thought?

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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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If it doesn't cool the bike down it isn't a worthwhile swap. So, probably not

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I just put a 2-into-1 exhaust on my '09 Street Glide. Could it be that the 49 state (non-cat) low-mileage headpipe I took off is worth more than I thought?

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Default Cats in the Head Pipes

I've heard that everyone is putting cats in the head pipes in 2010 to meet emissions standards. A Victory dealer says that they run better WITH it than without. I got their head wrench talking, and he went on to say that with the cat in the pipes, they're tuned fatter, allowing the motorcycle to run cooler.

I'm sure more information will come up as more of us talk to the tuners and mechanics.



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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Just touching on the cooling issue again, on Jamie's Jackpot site he makes a point that replacing the headers with his makes for a noticeable decrease in heat.

"Huge reduction of radiant and residual heat"

Wonder what that's about??

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