At least we know where we stand! A compromise or two might be in order to avoid over-kill, especially on my 1990 bike....

 

Are they? The impression that langhammx gives from his post is that they're not (which is why I asked a question rather than making a faulty assumption like you just did).

Looking at Howard's website, it says that your #3 shocks are adjustable for compression, rebound, and preload. It doesn't say anything about adjustments for the #1 or #2 shocks.

 

The picture clearly shows a threaded body. THe threaded body is used in conjunction with the two nuts (externally adjustable spring compression). When offering world class Ohlins shocks to bikers it would be evident that externally adjustable spring compression was part of the package. It is in the picture and a given. The people who come to my site usually are experienced and knowable. They have already bought other brands and been dis-satisfied with their performance.

 

I gather from Howard's reply, that they are "adjustable", by taking off the saddlrbags and using a pair of wrenches? For me, that says thay aren't "readily" adjustable.

Wouldn't work for me, eventually I would stop messing with it and find a middle gtound (with and without passenger/weight) so that the springs were never right.

Might be fine for someone who never rides two up though.

 

Obviously, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. I stated that the shocks, in the picture are the ones that I bought and are on my bike. I then stated that- they do not have external compression or rebound adjustment. I don't know if you know the difference or not from pre-load and compression/rebound.

Just in case, you are feeling like a fish out of water-

Ahh, nevermind.... I don't feel like explaining it all to you.

They do have a simple process of adjusting the spanner nuts to accomodate the ride height. Which is what pre-load means...

 

YES, you would simply take the saddle bags off and take 2 minutes to set the sag. It's REALLY not a big deal at all. I have the sag set for myself. I don't ride two-up very often, but have ridden two-up, without re setting the pre-load and while she only weighs 110 pounds (soaking wet), it does not change the ride at all. Now, if you were to put your 195 pound pig on the back or your 200 pound male companion on the back- I would suggest tighting up the springs. But what do I know ? I haven't tried either...

 

Little testy, aren't we?

You weren't clear, so I asked, and I doubt there's very much you could explain to me about suspension. I'm curious about your shocks so I'm asking you questions. If you'd rather puff up your chest and play internet tough-guy biker than answer them, that's fine.

The shocks on your bike are the #3s, correct? If so, then according to Howard's site, they're 3-way externally adjustable.

 

There seams to be many members who can not read or just wishes to make up their own statements as mine. This means lie. When you lie, you have no credibility.

Go back and read all of the original posts and keep in mind the time that they were altered. A few min, maybe spelling or typo’s, hours, than another story.
Below is what was printed. There is no mention of any of the BS that was stated by other members here. Blatant lies only!

My qualifications of machining or manufacturing, my work speaks for itself. I am a factory certified and factory trained Öhlins technician. I also manufacture my own brand of inverted forks. I am 62 years old and started mechanical drawing when I was in 8th grade, took a part time job in a friends machine shop when I was 16 years old, and starting building my own motorcycle from parts with no manual (they did not have them at that time). My present day motorcycle(s) (FXR) has only 2 major parts from Harley (in/out primary's) and my Bagger has 4, the (modified frame), (swing arm), & (in/out primary's). I made my own molds for the C/F wheels for both bikes (had them made by BST), and the list is too long...

I graduated as an Electrical Engineer after a run (volunteer) in Viet Nam in the Marines B-1-11 (1968~1969). I use to work for the Government in a Lab in NJ. I have always worked and built bikes as shown on my web site. In 1975 I won (First Place) all bike shows I ever entered including the first World of Wheels. I built the actual bike myself but had Tony Carlini paint it and Von Dutch engrave it. Rex Ramsey purchased Cranes Machine Shop once Cranes Cams moved to the next location in Hallandale, FL.

That gives me the qualifications to post (body) below. Reread my postings yourself. Compare than decide for yourself what was misquoted by others. This means LIES!

Post #6: I have never used any of the two above. I do know what is inside of a "for real set up" and you can never build a for real cartridge system using prison labor in China for that price. You will undoubtedly get what you pay for. Just like all suspension, those who compare a progressive anything and say it satisfies them, has absolutely no experience in anything else. Works, they are just OK but positively not world class.

In all fairness I have never ridden or have seen the two offerings but you just can not build a set for that money at the front door much less 45% off for dealers mark-up or more from Drag Specialties (Parts Unlimited). The next thing is where are you going to rebuild them once they wear out (everything wears out)?

Post #9: Sorry to go off subject of the OP. We need to make the fork caps which will be done right after the caliper mounts for the Öhlins. Machine time is backed up and hope to get it done. The 41 mm is very small and Öhlins does not make the caps. Machining in the compression valving and making them work will be easy but in order to make it work I need to buy 10 or sets of new take-off 2010 sliders (they fit all 41 mm fork tubes) because of machine set up time. No one does externally adjustable compression and spring pre-load

Post # 24: Last edited by FastHarley; 12-07-2009 at 10:09 AM. This was edited because of bad grammar and possible unseen spelling. The original content was not edited nor would anyone have time to read it since the change took place in one minute.

(rthomp159goes) you ride a set of Marzocch forks and have stated many times how much better they are on your bike. A set of Öhlins forks or the forks I make are many times better than the forks you have due to various reasons, most of those being what is in side of them (technology) and the high tolerance standards they are held to.


There are many solutions, not only from me, that give your bike a much better ride than stock. Of course HD could do it much better than I but they can sell sub-performance suspension to the masses and get 1) away with it, 2) Keep their profit margin/bottom line up

Post #42: If you wish to spend money on a Progressive product than do so. I would never nor am I ever going to do so. No one currently knows how their equipment will work and all is a guess. Öhlins charges $3,500 for their gas system and have been developing on it for several years to get it right.

You now can decide for yourself;

1. Copy and paste all the brands that were suppose to have been trashed by other members who posted here. Where are they?
2. Member gregbenner, (QUOTE) "I agree with your comments re: trashing other products, and particularly that noone has tried the progressve front cartridges" A synopsis of my postings are contained above. Where are they?
   1. Post #6: was the only mention of Progressive. Please copy and paste any other original posting I made on this. There is none!
3. Leftcoaster you stated in post 56 “I too find it astonishing that a site sponsor would so blatantly trash competitors and direct offensive remarks toward potential customers. Those regrettable remarks appear to have been edited (to the credit of the writer) but exist they did.”
   1. Where are they? Are you going to lie and tell us that you were reading this post the exact minute I edited my post and it was changed to some other meaning? You are a **** stirrer, you are what you are (which is someone who lies!)
   2. Quote: "direct offensive remarks toward potential customers" You are not and never will be a potential customer. Do I make myself clear on this point?
4. rthomp159goes There is no need to beat a dead horse.

I have no use for lairs or whinny *** little bitches (Member gregbenner this does not include you). Do I make myself clear?

This should be a forum for men/women who are interested in motorcycling and not drama queens (in my opinion). excluded & not meant in this) Drama Queens please do not respond to my posts, just move on!

 

Howard, I'm sorry if you feel I'm beating a dead horse or questioned your integrity. I've done nothing other than ask you and the people who own your shocks some very simple questions about them. You've constantly told me to "re-read your posts" without answering the questions. Everyone else has decided it's more fun to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about rather than answering the questions.

I don't have all the answers, hence the reason I'm asking. I understand how suspension components work, so I don't want or need a basic primer.

From what I can tell, you sell a 3-way adjustable Ohlins shock (your #3). Is that the case? If so, post or PM me the price. That's exactly the information I've been looking for.

 

Thge wholesale pricing to dealers only for the #3 is $700.00 and this pricing extends to all HDF members who can prove they are who they are (not someone off the street). This is done through a PM. The pricing you members are receiving is not reflected in the actual pricing of the product. These are also hand built to your specifications and not out of a box.