Discriminatory?
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: lewisville, nc
Your #2 example happens everyday in the DoD/Military and IMHO for all the right reasons.
You have to attend and pass a base sponsored MSF course before you can ride a bike to work (on base). You just can't show up at the gate.
A license and insurance are not enough.
Even though it's kind of a hassel to go through it's good to know that Everyone on base on a bike has had some form of training...
I know this is nothing like the private sector. Just sayin. Us DoD/Military guys are pretty much used to not having any rights. Just part of the job. No biggie.
lp
You have to attend and pass a base sponsored MSF course before you can ride a bike to work (on base). You just can't show up at the gate.
A license and insurance are not enough.
Even though it's kind of a hassel to go through it's good to know that Everyone on base on a bike has had some form of training...
I know this is nothing like the private sector. Just sayin. Us DoD/Military guys are pretty much used to not having any rights. Just part of the job. No biggie.
lp
Road Captain
Joined: Feb 2009
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And ABATE.....everybody who rides should be a member of at least one MRO (motorcycle rights organization).
Calif. passed the Unruh Act quite a number of years ago.....all discrimination based on mode of transportation went away. I believe it is a violation of your constitutional right (civil rights) to travel by any means legal in our country. I'd be talking to an attorney that specializes in that.
Calif. passed the Unruh Act quite a number of years ago.....all discrimination based on mode of transportation went away. I believe it is a violation of your constitutional right (civil rights) to travel by any means legal in our country. I'd be talking to an attorney that specializes in that.
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From: The Internet (& Dyer, Indiana)
My company just posted a ban on the use of motorcycles in travl related to company events; they based this against work comp law and to "protect' themselves against loss and are set to discipline accordingly. We as riders at work see this as a pre-ban move to stop us from riding at all to work or on our own time. Anyone else have this rule at work? We are challenging it.
A work related event, is not supposed to be a paid vacation.
It is work related business.
Their company, their events, to challenge that is only making yourself look like a "troublemaker" and possibly expose you to be put out with the other 15% who have no job at all!
I consider this a very petty thing that you are complaining about.
Appreciate what you have, for it may be gone tomorrow.
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 137
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From: Western Pennsylvania
What if the CEO were a tree hugger and mandated that only hybrid cars could be used to travel to work related events?? Would so many of you capitulate then?? What about no yellow cars?? Where does it become not ok?? Legal conveyance is just that, if ownership of a 4 wheeled vehicle was not a condition of employment, then it (imo) is not within the employers rights to dictate the type of vehicle used to travel.
Was the no motorcycle deal agreed upon when you were hired??
I agree with the view that if the PTB want to dictate my mode of LEGAL transportation, then they need to furnish same.
Was the no motorcycle deal agreed upon when you were hired??
I agree with the view that if the PTB want to dictate my mode of LEGAL transportation, then they need to furnish same.
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,169
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From: New Orleans
I'm union too, but I'm convinced times are gonna change and the Rules too.
I predict that the same liberals who fought and won smoking bans in our cities will also soon win the heavily debated Public Funded Heath Insurance incentive presently before our Administration. Once they win same, they will quickly determine that motorcycles and guns and bullets are hazardous to your health and then apply constraints to each......but that's just me and that's the way I think.
I've been around long enuff to remember a few old classic songs...One that comes to mind now is "This ain't what the Government." If you ain't never heard it, it's time you lived it.
I predict that the same liberals who fought and won smoking bans in our cities will also soon win the heavily debated Public Funded Heath Insurance incentive presently before our Administration. Once they win same, they will quickly determine that motorcycles and guns and bullets are hazardous to your health and then apply constraints to each......but that's just me and that's the way I think.
I've been around long enuff to remember a few old classic songs...One that comes to mind now is "This ain't what the Government." If you ain't never heard it, it's time you lived it.
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From: The Internet (& Dyer, Indiana)
What if the CEO were a tree hugger and mandated that only hybrid cars could be used to travel to work related events?? Would so many of you capitulate then?? What about no yellow cars?? Where does it become not ok?? Legal conveyance is just that, if ownership of a 4 wheeled vehicle was not a condition of employment, then it (imo) is not within the employers rights to dictate the type of vehicle used to travel.
Was the no motorcycle deal agreed upon when you were hired??
I agree with the view that if the PTB want to dictate my mode of LEGAL transportation, then they need to furnish same.
Was the no motorcycle deal agreed upon when you were hired??
I agree with the view that if the PTB want to dictate my mode of LEGAL transportation, then they need to furnish same.
If it were my company, he'd no longer be invited to company functions that required travel (since he filed an official complaint). Then if he still kept whining, he'd be replaced by someone eager to be a "team player".
Business is business. No room for those that fight your progress over petty chit. These are not paid vacations. These are WORK related functions. Good chance that workmans comp dictated the rule, and not your company. Play along, or hit the door.
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Greensboro, NC
If it were my company, he'd no longer be invited to company functions that required travel (since he filed an official complaint). Then if he still kept whining, he'd be replaced by someone eager to be a "team player".
Business is business. No room for those that fight your progress over petty chit. These are not paid vacations. These are WORK related functions. Good chance that workmans comp dictated the rule, and not your company. Play along, or hit the door.
+1. I do own my own company and have about 60 full time employees and if one doesn't like my rules then they can hit the door. I can have my pick of people to replace them the next day, esp in the current environment. With that said I am not a hard *** employer and don't just make up silly rules, but it is MY business and MY name on the bank notes NOT the employees. To them it is a job to me it is my everything. So as a buddy of mine says, "my dick, my dollar, my rules"....lol
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I'm union by affilation, but I vote GOP, so I'm afraid you're going to have to resort me and stuff me in another category.
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Cruiser
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 175
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From: Redding, CA
I work for the state of California, and state policy is that private motorcycles are not to be used for work related travel, at all. I can ride to and from work, but if I use my private vehicle during work, can't be my scoot. This comes up a lot when I have to travel for training, or court, when often I have the option of taking my own vehicle, at 0.50 a mile. Got to take the cage. I've bitched about this for 25 years, but evidently it is in our state's Government code. What is BS about this policy is that I could use a privately owned airplane, or even a bicycle at 0.04 a mile, but not a motorscooter. Oh well, just 1 year, 4 months, and 12 days until retirement...(but who's counting?)
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: Windham,Maine
Sounds like a Company being run by managers totally out of touch.Sad that you even have deal with something like that.What will be next a dress code?,marching to your cubicles,saluting?