J&M Headset Heads-Up
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J&M Headset Heads-Up
I just purchased Harley Davidson helmet #98210-10VM (3/4 with adjustable sunshade). It is made by HJC and comparable, I believe, to HJC #IS-33. I also purchased the J&M HS-ECD584-OF-HO.
This is a heads-up that this helmet is not really compatible, without helmet modification, with the J&M Elite headsets. The J&M speakers are thicker than the ones in the HD headsets. There are no speaker pockets, per se, in the helmet but rather pockets formed by the liner. The pocket is not deep enough to accomodate the J&M speakers without extreme discomfort.
I think I am going to make this work by getting a dremmel and cutting out some of the fiberglass in order to "make" an ear pocket. I perhaps could just use my HD headset that came with the bike but I have read that the J&M speaker sounds better (plus I am already out the money) so I am trying to make it work.
I will also mention that the HD microphone clamp is much easier to attach to the helmet than the J&M microphone clamp. If you are going to buy a J&M headset, it would probably be wise to call them and make sure it will work well with your helmet. I didn't do that which was a mistake. What is really interesting is that the instructions that come with the J&M headset state that they may not work with HJC and Shoei 3/4 helmets without cutting the fiberglass helmet shell. Too bad J&M doesn't have that information posted on their website so buyer beware and forewarned. I thought others who are considering helmet and headset choices might benefit from this post.
As an addendum, headset issue aside, I really like this 3/4 helmet. Nice padding and the retractable sunshield is sweet (although it should be darker).
This is a heads-up that this helmet is not really compatible, without helmet modification, with the J&M Elite headsets. The J&M speakers are thicker than the ones in the HD headsets. There are no speaker pockets, per se, in the helmet but rather pockets formed by the liner. The pocket is not deep enough to accomodate the J&M speakers without extreme discomfort.
I think I am going to make this work by getting a dremmel and cutting out some of the fiberglass in order to "make" an ear pocket. I perhaps could just use my HD headset that came with the bike but I have read that the J&M speaker sounds better (plus I am already out the money) so I am trying to make it work.
I will also mention that the HD microphone clamp is much easier to attach to the helmet than the J&M microphone clamp. If you are going to buy a J&M headset, it would probably be wise to call them and make sure it will work well with your helmet. I didn't do that which was a mistake. What is really interesting is that the instructions that come with the J&M headset state that they may not work with HJC and Shoei 3/4 helmets without cutting the fiberglass helmet shell. Too bad J&M doesn't have that information posted on their website so buyer beware and forewarned. I thought others who are considering helmet and headset choices might benefit from this post.
As an addendum, headset issue aside, I really like this 3/4 helmet. Nice padding and the retractable sunshield is sweet (although it should be darker).
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cresentmotor ,,,,,
go to http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....4-HJH-HO&PF=12 and let me know if this is the helmet you have and the headset you might need ? ,,,
very sorry for the confusion ,,,,
go to http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....4-HJH-HO&PF=12 and let me know if this is the helmet you have and the headset you might need ? ,,,
very sorry for the confusion ,,,,
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cresentmotor ,,,,,
go to http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....4-HJH-HO&PF=12 and let me know if this is the helmet you have and the headset you might need ? ,,,
very sorry for the confusion ,,,,
go to http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....4-HJH-HO&PF=12 and let me know if this is the helmet you have and the headset you might need ? ,,,
very sorry for the confusion ,,,,
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I have a brand new Black Graphite Nolan N-103 with J&M integrated Bluetooth, still in the box. (Size Large.) I purchased it thru Shawn at Dr. V-Twin, who still has it, as I am currently out of the country.
If anyone would like it for $120 less than the internet price that J&M sells it for, let me (or Shawn at Dr. V-Twin) know.
Check it out:
http://www.jmcorp.com/NolanHelmetsBlue.asp
If anyone would like it for $120 less than the internet price that J&M sells it for, let me (or Shawn at Dr. V-Twin) know.
Check it out:
http://www.jmcorp.com/NolanHelmetsBlue.asp
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CresentMotor ,,,,,
not making excuses, but hard to keep up with all the new helmets that are released each year, to check for headset compatibility ,,,,
would you like to trade the helmet speakers you have for a set of our ultra-slim models ? ,,,
these http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....SCP-UTS1&PF=20 are from our replacement parts page at www.jmcorp.com ,,,,,
not making excuses, but hard to keep up with all the new helmets that are released each year, to check for headset compatibility ,,,,
would you like to trade the helmet speakers you have for a set of our ultra-slim models ? ,,,
these http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....SCP-UTS1&PF=20 are from our replacement parts page at www.jmcorp.com ,,,,,
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CresentMotor ,,,,,
not making excuses, but hard to keep up with all the new helmets that are released each year, to check for headset compatibility ,,,,
would you like to trade the helmet speakers you have for a set of our ultra-slim models ? ,,,
these http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....SCP-UTS1&PF=20 are from our replacement parts page at www.jmcorp.com ,,,,,
not making excuses, but hard to keep up with all the new helmets that are released each year, to check for headset compatibility ,,,,
would you like to trade the helmet speakers you have for a set of our ultra-slim models ? ,,,
these http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail....SCP-UTS1&PF=20 are from our replacement parts page at www.jmcorp.com ,,,,,
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I might be. How does the sound fidelity of the ultra-slim stack up against the Elite speakers? If the sound quality is compromised due to the thinner speaker, it sort of defeats the purpose of my having ordered the J&M in the first place as I already have a HD headset.
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Crescentmotor, I have the same J&M headset/mic. Did you have the headset in another helmet and transferred it to the new helmet?
I read the J&M instructions with the headset that mentioned removing material from the helmet shell and was absolutley stunned that J&M would suggest potentially compromising the shell's integrity by removing material.
Having never used a headset until recently, it took me ten or more rides to get accustomed to having the speakers in contact with my ears. In fact, I bought a new helmet thinking I could buy one with significantly more room so that I wouldn't have the speakers touching my ears. I've since grown accustomed to the headset contact and no longer feel the need to switch the headset to the new helmet.
Hope you get your issues resolved.
Carl
I read the J&M instructions with the headset that mentioned removing material from the helmet shell and was absolutley stunned that J&M would suggest potentially compromising the shell's integrity by removing material.
Having never used a headset until recently, it took me ten or more rides to get accustomed to having the speakers in contact with my ears. In fact, I bought a new helmet thinking I could buy one with significantly more room so that I wouldn't have the speakers touching my ears. I've since grown accustomed to the headset contact and no longer feel the need to switch the headset to the new helmet.
Hope you get your issues resolved.
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You can try to email him via the J&M web site, or call the listed 1-800 number. That's always worked for me, in the past. As far as the quality..... I have the elite in my wife's helmet, as well as my intergrated KBC, but I have the slim line in my Modular... and to my un-trained ear, they are the same quality.
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