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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Question replace stock a/c to gain power? worth it?

I've been searching and reading many, many posts here regarding replacing the stock HD a/c with either K&N, SE, Arlien Ness (to name the top ones). The one thing missing, at least in my searches, is that there doesn't seem to be any defiinitive agreement as to how much HP is gained, if any? In some magazines, I have read some guarentee xx% increase, but how the heck am I going to prove/disprove that?!

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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Put it on a Dyno, get a run before the swap, and one after.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wkottas
I've been searching and reading many, many posts here regarding replacing the stock HD a/c with either K&N, SE, Arlien Ness (to name the top ones). The one thing missing, at least in my searches, is that there doesn't seem to be any defiinitive agreement as to how much HP is gained, if any? In some magazines, I have read some guarentee xx% increase, but how the heck am I going to prove/disprove that?!

thoughts???

Ride long and safe everyone!
If you are changing the AF only, I don't think you will see much difference. My last four Harley's was stock when I bought them. I did the stage1 Dealer DL with SE AF and exhaust. I could tell a big difference in throttle response. as for HP increase, I've heard any where from 7 to 15 HP. I don't know for sure. Never cared, I just wanted it to run good and sound like a Harley.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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With K&N airfilter kit, V&H Oval slipons and a PC111 I went from 66hp/80tq to
75hp/88tq. From everything I've seen this is about average.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Most increases are at 5000, 5500 rpm. If you live up there, go for it. Most of my riding is at 3000. The gain at 3000 or 3500 is only about 2 to 3 horsepower. I'd rather buy $1000 worth of beer, than pipes and an air cleaner and a fuel management system and gain only 3 horsepower.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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More than anything the new A/C lets more air in. think of your engine as a big air pump. If you maintain the correct air to fuel ratio (AFR) as you put more air in, you can put more fuel in and result in more power or torque, usually both. As others have posted, a high flowing A/C with free flowing exhaust and the proper tune will usually add 7-11% power and torque. The key thing would be to find a good tuner WITH A DYNO and let him work his magic on it.

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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DR. V-TWIN
Put it on a Dyno, get a run before the swap, and one after.
LOL!! If he's concerned over the price/value of a A/C, I hardly think he's gonna do this!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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A/C only is consistantly good for 7 HP avg gain as seen on the dyno!
 
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It sounds a lot faster, but I doubt it is. I think it is an annoying sound, and if I don't get used to it I will put the stock one back on.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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With ac, some mufflers, and the tuner, I got about 10/10. And it ran a lot cooler.
Not a must have for everyone, but it was for me.
 
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