Happened so fast
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 461
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From: Providence
Never really thought about it, but when you look over in the other lane and see
3,5 or more cars that have rearend each other. Do EACH and ever car get a
following too close ticket. Like someone said hit a car in the rear and you bought
it. Unless maybe they had no brake lightts...One can not drive to far ahead in a
scoot. But in a motorhome or a RAM truck I drive as far ahead as I can see.
My grandson has a Honda Civic and I have to look up to read a bumper sticker
on the truck in front of us. Not at all a comforting position. But you did excape
a bullet for sure, as it couold have been alot worse.....
I drive like ever cager out there is mentally someplace else. Fourty yrs. ago a
guy in a Scout 4X4 made eye contact with me driving down Valley st. in Abingdon
Va. pulled out and stopped. I could see my right leg wrapped around his steel
bumper. But I layed it down and slid into the oncoming lane. Lucky no one was
coming at that time........Tenn.Vol.
3,5 or more cars that have rearend each other. Do EACH and ever car get a
following too close ticket. Like someone said hit a car in the rear and you bought
it. Unless maybe they had no brake lightts...One can not drive to far ahead in a
scoot. But in a motorhome or a RAM truck I drive as far ahead as I can see.
My grandson has a Honda Civic and I have to look up to read a bumper sticker
on the truck in front of us. Not at all a comforting position. But you did excape
a bullet for sure, as it couold have been alot worse.....
I drive like ever cager out there is mentally someplace else. Fourty yrs. ago a
guy in a Scout 4X4 made eye contact with me driving down Valley st. in Abingdon
Va. pulled out and stopped. I could see my right leg wrapped around his steel
bumper. But I layed it down and slid into the oncoming lane. Lucky no one was
coming at that time........Tenn.Vol.
Example: The state of Rhode Island is a no fault stated, meaning that usually the cause of the accident would be determined by the insurance company and what the report said for each vehicle. It could go 50/50 for each and they always look at every situation like the collision could of been avoided. It is best to have a independent witness that could help you out. Another thing, if you do not have any damage to your vehicle and did not cause any damage to any vehicle, then why would you want to be on the accident report. That's one of reasons why our insurance is high here. This could go on your license and hurt your driving record. Besides, if the damages are not all that bad then you could probably work out things yourself. Which could save you in the end with not getting penalized on your license....
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PS. I am also from LA.
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Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Southern Maryland
I agree
Yep.. So when grandma pulls out infront of an 18 wheeler that is going the speed limit of 45mph and she only get up to 10mph and he hits her in the rear it is his fault. Even though everyone knows that with the physics envolved there is no way the truck could have stopped in time. It is way differnet over here in Germany. If you pull out in front of an oncoming vehicle and cause the accident then it is your fault.
PS. I am also from LA.
PS. I am also from LA.
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 238
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From: Central Florida
Glad you're OK
Well put.
Well put.
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From: Illinois
When multiple vehicles run in to each other. Each one is liable for the one in front that they hit. The one behind you for you and the you for the one that you hit. Reminder you ARE following too close if you can not stop in time no matter how "sudden" the stop was.
The law requires you to be ready for the sudden stop. Most operators in this country do follow too close. It is far more important on a motorcycle. Defensive driving is an absolute requirement for safe motorcycling.
Retired LEO lecture over for the day.
The law requires you to be ready for the sudden stop. Most operators in this country do follow too close. It is far more important on a motorcycle. Defensive driving is an absolute requirement for safe motorcycling.
Retired LEO lecture over for the day.
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Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 61
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From: Powell, OH
When is following too close unavoidable?
If you're following too close and the car in front stops but you don't, it normally is your fault. If a car pulls out in front of you either because they are stupid or didn't see you, then it is the other guys fault. Unless.....LEO can prove that you had the last chance to avoid the collision. Law may vary from state to state and LEO to LEO.
I was first in line in the left lane pulling away from a green light. Medium traffic. About 200 yards ahead, there was a city bus pulled over to the right at a bus stop. As I approach the bus going 45mph, feet up and enjoying the day, the left turn signal comes on the bus and it pulls over **2** lanes and then starts to stop to turn into a shopping center!! Well, less than 50 feet from becoming a bug spot on the back of the bus, I look to my right and see about 1 1/2 car length opening. Tight, but manageable. Yes, I really did turn on the right turn signal, looked right again and started to pull over. Notice, I didn't look forward again before pulling over.
BAM!!! Rear-ended the car ahead.
What happened? Well, the car ahead of the car I rear-ended decided to slow down to almost a full stop and turned RIGHT into a cemetery at the same place the bus was turning left!
I remember pulling the front brake and literally standing on the rear brake. My skid patch was 18 inches long (measured later) before hitting the car.
I was a fortunate son that a witness came off the bus and STAYED for the LEO to give his statement! After the LEO spoke to all, he finally took my statement and said that my statement matched the witness and called it an unavoidable accident. No citations.
EGUC is one strong bike. Front fender was folded under, but the front suspension was not bent. Some road rash on the chrome (and on me) and fiberglass, but after my neighbor and I pulled out the front fender, I road it home.
Moral? I don't know if I have one . . . just glad to be alive. Did lose my favorite leather jacket, though. It did it's job . . .