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This is pretty much why I'm keeping my motor stock. Too many experts out there, with too many different opinions.
I bought a cruiser, so I guess I'm satisfied. I've never been left behind yet. lol
.....................and I seldom, if ever, crank it to a wide open throttle. I'm 55 years old, where the hell am I going that I need to be in such a big hurry? If my buds want to cruise down the highway at 70, I'm in. If they want to cruise at 80, I'm in. Hell I've even snuck in behind cars doing 90 and cruised right along with them (hoping they get the speeding ticket, if you know what I mean). If I need to pass extremely fast, I drop down to 3rd gear.
Everybody around here that I know that has done motor work, takes it back in and does more motor work. They ain't ever happy.
I wanted a cruiser and I bought a cruiser. I did the stage I because it's functional in my opinion. As long as it sounds good and gets me up hills with the cruise on, I don't need any more. You can really wrap up a lot of money changing stuff around inside the motor, think I'll just leave mine stock on the inside and spend my $$$ on CHROME!
This is pretty much why I'm keeping my motor stock. Too many experts out there, with too many different opinions.
I bought a cruiser, so I guess I'm satisfied. I've never been left behind yet. lol
.....................and I seldom, if ever, crank it to a wide open throttle. I'm 55 years old, where the hell am I going that I need to be in such a big hurry? If my buds want to cruise down the highway at 70, I'm in. If they want to cruise at 80, I'm in. Hell I've even snuck in behind cars doing 90 and cruised right along with them (hoping they get the speeding ticket, if you know what I mean). If I need to pass extremely fast, I drop down to 3rd gear.
Everybody around here that I know that has done motor work, takes it back in and does more motor work. They ain't ever happy.
I couldn't agree with you more. I can't figure out why you need a 117" to ride down to the local dealership and talk about their chrome, or how fast you can get to Starbucks. Reason I bought a 103" is I liked the fact that it was a 103" ,and it would probably do good as long tour bike. I plan on passing a lot of dealerships this year. Only reason I go too one is when I need a new bike.
Performancing a Harley is possible but the combination of components and tuning separates the men from the boys. Like some others already said - it isn't just about displacement. Stage 1 needs to be done on all new Harleys including the hairiest Screaming Eagle 110 right off the showroom floor before they will perform to their potential. That includes pipes, A/C and SEST. Then you can talk about proper cams and porting. A good tuner can do wonders with that raw material and they don't need a dyno. Just the SEST and the knowledge of how to use it. A bit of study before going off half cocked with a speed catalog and your plastic can save you some worries and maybe a few bucks.
There is a lot of great advise on here about which direction to go but I went the simple way; HD 113" super pro kit. I installed a Baisley oil pressure spring and D&D Boarzilla 2 into1 header to complete my build. Everything else is HD. I have tuned the SEST over 40 times going by seat of the pants. Still waiting to find the right guy to stick it on a dyno and final tune it for me.
I did have Falicon true, weld and balance my crank but it's all HD.
I rode 120 miles to a bike rally, entered the dyno shootout, (won, btw with 130 hp and 125 torque) and rode back averaging 42 mpg along the way.
No down shifting required to pass at freeway speeds or tackle the highest hills/mountains across Ohio, Kentucky or WV.
Less than $5k out of pocket doing most of the work myself.
Whoever built/tuned your buddy's bike needs to go back and check his work. There's no stock HD made (less v-rod and that's questionable) that will touch my bike.
This is by far the best bike I have owned that puts the biggest smile on my face and is super easy to ride.
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