I am not sure but I remember a time when I activated my Engine Idle Temp. Management system when my bike was new and it stayed activated even after i shut the bike off. It would come on automatically. I installed a PCV it threw a few engine codes and the EITMS would never work with the Power Commander. I removed the PCV and the pipes and went back stock. Now that it is warm I activated the EITMS and it works fine but when I shut the bike off I have to activate it every time I restart it. Anyone else experiencing this. Wonderin if a Stage 1 ECU flash would fix this.

 

I noticed a long time ago...when I put the PCV on that I had to reactivate EITMS at each start-up. I have made it part of my start-up sequence habit. I thought I was the only one with this problem as most others have not had this happen.

If it was on, when you roll the throttle forward it would flash orange indicating it was being turned off. Sure enough though, every time I roll forward it flashes green, indicating it was off and is being turned on.

I don't have any issues with EITMS working with the PCV though. Haven't tried disconnecting the PCV to see if it changes the EITMS condition.

Have you cleared all active and historic codes from the ECM?

 

I checked it a few weeks ago there were a few long 8 digit numbers that flashed up but not E, P, etc letters with a 4 digit codes were stored. I deleted the ones that were there b4 i cannot remember the numbers but there were a brake light switch code(i think) and a (vss code). I will check again to make sure.

 

If you get a decent fuel management device like T-Max, TTS, or PCV you will never see your bike get to a temp where the EITMS would come on unless you're doing parade duty riding or stuck in a freeway parking lot in which case it would probably be better to find a surface road or just park it for a while.

There's also some decent oil coolers available: Jagg, HD, Ultracool, etc.

If you're already hitting temps causing your EITMS to kick in it's gonna be a long summer.

JMHO

 

If you're talking about the part numbers that come up i each section of the diagnostics....those are the part numbers of the diagnostic modules themselves, not codes. Any codes should be 5 digits. One letter with 4 numbers.

I doubt you'll find any codes for this issue though, as I never have. Found codes for the TBW sensor last week, but no change in the EITMS after replacement of the sensor.

 

Boy am I the exception to THAT one! However, I agree 1000% it SHOULD be the way you describe! I put up with the bike going into 'hot' mode all the time before I got my full system ready for the bike thinking it would all go bye-bye once I was done. Full V&H system, PC-V from Jamie, MaxFlo a/c, you know, pretty much the basics, and she's already back to going into 'hot' mode. Granted, not quite as often, but the improvement is nothing to write home about. Emailed Jamie, got no reply yet regarding my feeling it's running too rich. Wish I could call him during normal hours. Oh, and BTW, my bike came with an HD oil cooler already installed.
So, though I feel you assessment should be spot-on, tis not the case here! (sadly!)

 

The EITMS is not activated due to an overheating engine it cuts on when the front head temp is greater than around 287 which is a below normal core head temp. I had the PCV and it was setup with several different maps. The EITMS still cut on if I was sitting for like 10min or so. If you go out let your bike warm up to normal temps and let it sit for 10 to 15 min I bet you it will cut on if not, its not working. This system is designed for rider comfort not to cool the engine. My EITMS cuts on sometime when my oil temps are only 220F with the air temp around 87F or so.

 

So if I understand this right the EITMS kicks on even though the bike is not over heating or if the rider is uncomfortable due to having changed fuel management, pipes, AC, etc.

If this is the case why not just turn it off?

With the the TTS Mastertune I have on my Softy I have the option. I leave it on but it has never kicked in (or off would be the right way to say that).

I guess I have more to learn about this or I'm just glad I have a system that works.

PS: The passive security system sucks in my 07. If I just lock the ignition I get a more reliable and simple theft deterrent than the TSSM provides.

A switch from the TSSM to a simple TSM has fixed that problem. I've already been stranded once from that dang thing. Never again now.

 

Read your owners manual...it's all in there. Not due to replacing pipes, tuner or anything. Just when front head temp exceeds 287 (??) and clutch is pulled in, and speedometer is on zero. Something like that anyway, been a while since I looked.

If I'm not mistaken, EITMS is a Touring bike thing though. You shouldn't have it on your softail. I had a 07 Night Train and don't remember EITMS being an option.

 

Thanks 09! I was under the impression it worked on all 07 and later bikes.

Thanks for the clarification.

B