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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmything
About rear ended a woman who had slammed her brakes on for a school bus letting kids off. I've got ABS and the pedal violently pulsated enough to throw my foot off. Had to veer to the right side of her to miss hitting her. First time its done this. I've read that on uneven roads, if the tires lose contact with the raoad, it can do this, but I'm thinking the road was level.
If your ABS prevented you from having a high-side crash, it did its job.

ABS will only prevent your tires from locking up, and has little to do with stopping distance which may have been the real issue here with a woman who had slammed her brakes.

Sound like you did everything right too. Hit the brakes, didn't panic, and swerved. Good job!

I've had the ABS download done and it does prevent the ABS from being so sensitive on the rear brake and kicking in on bumps.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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So, the bus driver in front of the woman in front of you Slamed on the brakes and both you and her had to slam and swerve to miss the sudden stopping school bus?
I'm going to hear about this remark........
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Dont think the problem was the ABS......I am trying more and more everyday to keep a larger distance between me and the vehicle in front of me just for this very reason when riding my bike.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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You should be using your front brake for most of your stopping power, even more so with ABS as it prevents the front wheel from locking. Stopping distances are huge if you are only using a rear brake.

Originally Posted by jimmything
About rear ended a woman who had slammed her brakes on for a school bus letting kids off. I've got ABS and the pedal violently pulsated enough to throw my foot off. Had to veer to the right side of her to miss hitting her. First time its done this. I've read that on uneven roads, if the tires lose contact with the raoad, it can do this, but I'm thinking the road was level.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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I was using both brakes. I've had numerous occasions when the ABS saved me, and it didn't function correctly this time.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmything
About rear ended a woman who had slammed her brakes on for a school bus letting kids off. I've got ABS and the pedal violently pulsated enough to throw my foot off. Had to veer to the right side of her to miss hitting her. First time its done this. I've read that on uneven roads, if the tires lose contact with the raoad, it can do this, but I'm thinking the road was level.
Wasn't there so can't be sure I'm right, but did you depend on the rear and not the front brake to stop? The rear can't do the job in any quick stop situation-ABS or no ABS...If you know this, please forgive me I'm not trying to be some smartass but 75% of stopping power is the front brake.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmything
About rear ended a woman who had slammed her brakes on for a school bus letting kids off. I've got ABS and the pedal violently pulsated enough to throw my foot off. Had to veer to the right side of her to miss hitting her. First time its done this. I've read that on uneven roads, if the tires lose contact with the raoad, it can do this, but I'm thinking the road was level.
SO YOU DIDN'T SEE A SCHOOL BUS .....with the red flashing lights.i say you have other worries
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Damascus
If your ABS prevented you from having a high-side crash, it did its job.

ABS will only prevent your tires from locking up, and has little to do with stopping distance which may have been the real issue here with a woman who had slammed her brakes.

Sound like you did everything right too. Hit the brakes, didn't panic, and swerved. Good job!

I've had the ABS download done and it does prevent the ABS from being so sensitive on the rear brake and kicking in on bumps.
Definately not trying to start an argument here, hell I don't even have ABS brakes, but I disagree about the stopping distance, if your rear wheel doesn't lock up, and slide, it has to improve your stopping distance.

Also my understanding is, usually a highside happens when the rear wheel does lock up, and you let off the brake when you are sliding sideways, which allows the skid to break, and adds instant traction, since the inertia of your bike is sideways, the bike flips over in a high side.

I'm by no means an expert, so I may be "whistling dixie" just sharing my thoughts on the issue. Bottom line, I'm glad the OP and his bike are in one piece!!
 
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Originally Posted by jimmything
I was using both brakes. I've had numerous occasions when the ABS saved me, and it didn't function correctly this time.
If you were following to close, paniced and stabbed the rear brake hard enough to have it vibrate your foot of the pedal IT DID EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, out think you! The viration was the soleniod keeping the rear wheel from locking up, the harder you push the harder it has to push back.

Might want to increase your distance AND remember the front brake is your PRIMARY brake!
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jerseyjeff62
SO YOU DIDN'T SEE A SCHOOL BUS .....with the red flashing lights.i say you have other worries
That's what I was thinking...
 
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