Power Commander 111 Problem ??
I would think that if the Power Commander caused the problem with your bike, the vendor who sold it to you should reimburse you for the repairs. They can check easily enough if the unit is working correctly, and if it isn't, they really ought to fix your bike. Fuel Moto gets a lot of goodwill from the members of this forum. Here's a chance for them to repay some of that.
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Did you check the pins on the ECU connectors as I suggested earlier? If one or more is bent that could be your problem. Do you still have the PCIII installed or are you trying to get it running with the original configuration? If no PC, it obviously not the PC causing the problem, and since it is downstream from the ECU and doesn't feed information to it it can't damage the bike's EFI system--or if it can I've never heard of it happening.
If the problem occurs only when the PC is installed your trottle-position settings may be off, and if they're far-enough off it can affect the way the bike runs. Have you installed the PC software on your computer and checked this as called for in the manual?
i had hoped maybe it would clear itself out but it still wont idle, kind of afraid to let it run like that i dont want to make things worse....i thought the same thing maybe they sent one for a 88 i told them what i had 04 SEEG with the 103....
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Me neither.
No O2 sensors on an '04.
If it can happen I've never heard of it before.
If so and if the map is wrong I wouldn't think it would cause the problems he's experiencing.
What would cause this? I don't recall ever reading about this happening.
Did you disconnect the o2 sensors? Did you make sure to tell fuel moto that you bike's ecu isn't "stock"? you have a stage one, I assume, so you must have an HD stage one map on the ecu.
A PC can not fry, bake or otherwise negatively affect the ecu unless there is something catastrophically wrong in the PC's wiring. It's designed to allow the electrical pulses to go only one way. It is designed not to let current to go twards the ecu at all.
what other motor work have you had done to your bike? valves, bigbore or cams?
The only other option is that, like FM suggested, one of the cyl's injectors where stuck open.
I had the same problem, fuel moto sent me new map and problem was solved.
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I would think that if the Power Commander caused the problem with your bike, the vendor who sold it to you should reimburse you for the repairs. They can check easily enough if the unit is working correctly, and if it isn't, they really ought to fix your bike. Fuel Moto gets a lot of goodwill from the members of this forum. Here's a chance for them to repay some of that.
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its gas for sure coming out...its dripping out rear of muffler as it sets on kickstand.. i have ran it for approx 2 minutes it had between 1/4 and half of a tank now fuel light is on..all pins are straight on connector.. went back to stock configuration as soon as it cut off thursday..unhooked battery....2 sets of plugs..the injector is pumping a lot of fuel in rear cylinder..i am not mad at FM, things like this happen it was my choice to do it..i hate to take to the shop for expensive repairs..esp since the bike was running perfect before.. also bike has had no engine work just stage one..
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one other thing is i was going to take it to a indy around the corner from work and let him install it, we has going to charge me 70 bucks to hook it up and set throttle position( i dont have a laptop) and also make sure there was no decel popping,so i had called FM again before i hooked it up and he said try it first..the throttle position could be done later if needed..... plug and play?? oh well live and learn
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I have been saving up for a cam change and just bought a set of SE255's --after reading this I'm not so sure I want to try it. I don't have a laptop and don't want to buy one just for this. Stock may not be so bad after all.
Sure hope you get this straight without too much expense and good luck.
Sure hope you get this straight without too much expense and good luck.
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I recommend contacting us on monday and I can help diagnose further into this issue. Without seeying the bike firsthand it is difficult to speculate as to the problem, there are several possibilities ranging from an installation, connection or wiring issue, the possibility that the unit was plugged in with the ignition switch on causing a corruption, or even a pre existing condition with a component, wire or sensor that was brought forth when the PC was introduced into the system (just using these as examples, again it is difficult to speculate without seeying the bike) In the extremely rare case there is an issue with the unit we will certainly take care of it. If you remove the unit from the bike it will return to stock, the PC has no effect on the ECM, sensors or otherwise as it is downstream from these components. I am not completely clear on what you have tried so far however the first step you need to do is install the Power Commander software on your computer and contact us, we will check some settings and have you reinstall the firmware as well as some other tests. Give us a call and we are here to help.
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Last edited by fuelmoto; May 15, 2010 at 05:19 PM.
FM wouldn't have any obligation to reimburse the OP for repairs, especially since there is no indication the PCIII itself caused the problem. Just because there seems to be a cause-effect relationship there could be something we all aren't aware of. Two that come to mind would be a bent connector pin or a TP setting that is way off. In the past, one guy had a problem and it was discovered he had performed the TP settings (0 and 100%) incorrectly, although the OP hasn't said that he has even installed the PC software yet. Thus, I'm not saying he did this, just that this one way to get the PC out of whack.
A stand-up business would fix any problem that they caused. I think fuel moto is a stand up business.
Are you serious? It's far more likely to be unburned gas than condensation. From what he's said, he's got an injector stuck wide open, dumping fuel into one cylinder. That fuel isn't combusting, it has to go somewhere.
Last edited by Mike; May 15, 2010 at 05:50 PM.