Used bike prices. Whats up with that?
Tourer
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From: Hudson Valley
I had to read this several times to understand we are talking about the price of sporties in the touring forum...
Why not buy private party from someone eager to get out?
They aren't hard to find.
Why not buy private party from someone eager to get out?
They aren't hard to find.
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From: Wisconsin
Some of the prices do vary with the location and popularity at that location.For example what is 7,000 in Wisconsin might be 8,500 in Arizona.This may not be figured in the book price,along with the attitude of the dealer.Perhaps check the local paper for some car lots that have taken them in trade as they will usually give a deal to get rid of them as bikes are not there primary interest. Also
have you seen the new H-D ad showing new bikes starting at $7,999!
have you seen the new H-D ad showing new bikes starting at $7,999!
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Road Warrior
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+1; buy private, you will never get a deal from a dealer. They have the attitude that a sucker is born every minute and the next guy/gal that walks thru the door will pay full price. Surprisingly, the next guy/gal thru the door often does just that. In this economy, I suspect many potentail Dyna buyers may be lowering their expectations and going for a Sporty.
The only "DEAL" you will get if you buy private is to come across someone that is down on their luck and need to sell their H-D at any price to get $$ to pay off the loan as fast as possible. Or to get fast $$ to pay off other loans. If the seller does not NEED the money and is simply looking to buy a new motorcycle or sell one out of the stable - you are NOT gonna get a "DEAL".
I happen to have a good job and make a good salary. At least for now. I choose to do business with the dealers and have always come to a deal that I think is fair. I do not bitch about it and I sleep really good at night nowing I did not benifit from someone else's misfortune. I also know I did my own small part to help ensure H-D is around for a little while longer. I also did just a little bit to help pay for the girls working the stores and the mechanics out back. They need jobs too.
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Road Master
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"They have the attitude that a sucker is born every minute" I don't get this statement. People act like dealers need to give stuff away. It is a business - Its not personal. A business has to pay their employees. Pay the overhead. There is a % they need to make on every deal to stay in business. Just like any other business. Without dealers, HD will cease to exist. I really do not want to be around to see that day.
The only "DEAL" you will get if you buy private is to come across someone that is down on their luck and need to sell their H-D at any price to get $$ to pay off the loan as fast as possible. Or to get fast $$ to pay off other loans. If the seller does not NEED the money and is simply looking to buy a new motorcycle or sell one out of the stable - you are NOT gonna get a "DEAL".
I happen to have a good job and make a good salary. At least for now. I choose to do business with the dealers and have always come to a deal that I think is fair. I do not bitch about it and I sleep really good at night nowing I did not benifit from someone else's misfortune. I also know I did my own small part to help ensure H-D is around for a little while longer. I also did just a little bit to help pay for the girls working the stores and the mechanics out back. They need jobs too.
The only "DEAL" you will get if you buy private is to come across someone that is down on their luck and need to sell their H-D at any price to get $$ to pay off the loan as fast as possible. Or to get fast $$ to pay off other loans. If the seller does not NEED the money and is simply looking to buy a new motorcycle or sell one out of the stable - you are NOT gonna get a "DEAL".
I happen to have a good job and make a good salary. At least for now. I choose to do business with the dealers and have always come to a deal that I think is fair. I do not bitch about it and I sleep really good at night nowing I did not benifit from someone else's misfortune. I also know I did my own small part to help ensure H-D is around for a little while longer. I also did just a little bit to help pay for the girls working the stores and the mechanics out back. They need jobs too.
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I stopped into the St. Paul HD dealer ship 2 weeks ago. I was looking at the 2011 Roadglide Ultra. I asked the salesman if he wanted to take a look at my 05 Electraglide to see if they would make me a offer on trade ($10,000 worth of up grades on my bagger) he said "we offer NADA on all trade ins so I don't have to look at your bike" I guess he was just being straight up but It felt more like a kick in the plums to me.
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I would agree with this to an extent. Those sound very high for Sportsters to me. I have seen many nice used ones quite cheap. I am starting to look for an 883 for my wife to learn on, (well, to ride after she learns how to on a small Honda or something) I think.
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walk into any harley dealership and observe the architecture, lighting, tiled floors, and all of the stuff they have invested in their showroom alone. they're in business to make money and to pay for all that extravagance of their building. i'm very impressed each time i walk into a dealership, and that's when i realize who's paying for all of that. it's us, man. i'd suggest not getting in a hurry, and you'll find something you're comfortable with.
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Dealers would rather you finance...they make money by you financing. Cash talks yes....but in this case they'd just assume you didn't pay cash. They make money on both ends. Buying a HD is like buying an expensive car...it is what it is. I suggest shopping around (even out of state)...you'll find what you're looking for eventually. Some dealers are harder up then others.
How does the dealer make money off of you financing? I would think the MOCO would make the profit off the interest, and the dealer just made whatever was between your price and whatever they paid for the bike from the MOCO?
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Those are probably bikes from that buyback program. The MOCO's screwed itself bigtime. No pity here.
With the economy the way it is, you'd be crazy to pay a premium price for a used Sporty. There are PLENTY available from individuals at reasonable prices.
With the economy the way it is, you'd be crazy to pay a premium price for a used Sporty. There are PLENTY available from individuals at reasonable prices.