07' ultra cvo
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07' ultra cvo
A good friend that I ride with a lot is trading his 05' clasic cvo on a new 07' ultra cvo I took his rhineharts off of the 05' to be used on the 07' due to the fact that the dealer said that the sert will remap the bike fine with the o2 sensors removed and work just like his 05' wich I was a little suprised of but now they aer changing there minds saying that now they are not sure. Does any one know if it is true and they are getting pressure to not do it because they are the dealer? I saw on fuel moto's site that the 07' power comanders are out with o2 sensor eliminators and a part # on dyno jet's web site any one with any input on either of these on the 07' 96" or 110" ?
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RE: 07' ultra cvo
If anyone removes the o2 sensors, or installs the eliminators, all they are doing is going backwards for tuneability.....
Why would you go from Closed loop to Open is not really productive for a street motor....
The 07 maps (SERT) are designed with the o2's in mind, and you have the ability to "Turn off" them as you are building a map in the SERT....
Once the tuning is done, you reinstate them and now the ECM can tune up or down 30% of the tuned values to optimize the performance....
Kind of a no brainer, but it is not my bike, and not my build.....
Why would you go from Closed loop to Open is not really productive for a street motor....
The 07 maps (SERT) are designed with the o2's in mind, and you have the ability to "Turn off" them as you are building a map in the SERT....
Once the tuning is done, you reinstate them and now the ECM can tune up or down 30% of the tuned values to optimize the performance....
Kind of a no brainer, but it is not my bike, and not my build.....
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Thanks that makes more sense to me when explained that way tuning a base map and letting it adjust up or down 30% kind of explains why small changes are ok but it will not adjust for big changes but with that said the 30% tunes to what 14.7:1 or can it be changed to a richer 13.2 or so ? realizing it is probably more compliated than that and 13.2 is adjusted @ 100% thortle position the o2 sensors probably adjust for diffrent thortle positions. I apreciate the info and I will pass it on thanks!
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o2 Sensors are a narrow band type..... Stochiometric values are at 14.2, if I am correct is the Base....
30% is not doable to get 13.2..... Tad rich for me.... 13.5-.8 is where we tune them... maintaining driveability without sacrificing economy....
30% is not doable to get 13.2..... Tad rich for me.... 13.5-.8 is where we tune them... maintaining driveability without sacrificing economy....
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RE: 07' ultra cvo
o2 Sensors are a narrow band type..... Stochiometric values are at 14.2, if I am correct is the Base....
30% is not doable to get 13.2..... Tad rich for me.... 13.5-.8 is where we tune them... maintaining driveability without sacrificing economy....
30% is not doable to get 13.2..... Tad rich for me.... 13.5-.8 is where we tune them... maintaining driveability without sacrificing economy....
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RE: 07' ultra cvo
05 Rinehart true dual system WILL NOT work on any 07 touring bike. Don't waste your time, it won't fit due to the larger six speed trans. The front cylinder pipe will not clear the transmission cover and this is why Rinehart is re-designing their pipes. I currently have a SERT, ness big sucker, and SE slip on's and the bike runs great. I am also going to install a full Rinehart system but not until they release the new pipes in November. The 110 engine really needs to breathe, it really is like night and day after tuning it and changing the air filter and pipes. Even with slip on's !!!
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