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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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I have an 05 electraglide with a 95 big bore kit, se heads, se a/c, 257 cams, and rhinehart duals. It dynoed at 102hp and 104 torque. I'm thinkin that torque # is a little low. I have nothing on bottom end at all. At 4000 rpms it comes to life and really screams. Its fast but with no low end torque its not rider friendly for around town cruzin. What is my best solution without spendin a ton of money. Also has a se tuner but i dont have the module.
 
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If it were me, I'd be looking at a different cam. Sounds like you just need the torque moved to the left so it works better at lower rpm. I think your overall numbers are dAmned impressive, especially the horse power number. I don't know which cam to recommend for your set up, but I can tell you my buddy has a SE 203 in his 95" and it pulls like a freight train. I'm sure some more knowledgeable folks can give you more specific advice though.
 
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If it were me, I'd be looking at a different cam. Sounds like you just need the torque moved to the left so it works better at lower rpm. I think your overall numbers are dAmned impressive, especially the horse power number. I don't know which cam to recommend for your set up, but I can tell you my buddy has a SE 203 in his 95" and it pulls like a freight train. I'm sure some more knowledgeable folks can give you more specific advice though.
I havent had it tuned since i've owned it. The build was done at 6 miles and the odo shows 13000 now. nothing has been changed or added. Do you think a quality tuner would help? All i did was a dyno run to see what she had.
 
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The 257 cam is the stumbling block here. After much discussion with guys "in the know" I went with a 211. Way way better low end torque. The 257 starts doing it's job over about 4000.
 
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Originally Posted by coolerman69
I have an 05 electraglide with a 95 big bore kit, se heads, se a/c, 257 cams, and rhinehart duals. It dynoed at 102hp and 104 torque. I'm thinkin that torque # is a little low. I have nothing on bottom end at all. At 4000 rpms it comes to life and really screams. Its fast but with no low end torque its not rider friendly for around town cruzin. What is my best solution without spendin a ton of money. Also has a se tuner but i dont have the module.
The numbers are not the problem; it's where the power occurs, and that's primarily a function of the cams you have which are a high rpm cam, so it's not surprising that riding at 2000-3000 rpms around town you get little, if any, benefit from the build.

Check-out HD's Screamin Eagle information, especially about cams and the intake valve closing specs, in this link:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...bmLocale=en_US

Tuning the bike won't change the power band of your build, though it might help the bike's manners at lower rpms.

If you don't have the SERT key/dongle (it's known by a variety of names), you're SOL and will need to buy a new one or use an alternative tuning device (e.g. TTS, PCV, etc.).

As for a real solution for your riding style, talk to an experienced person and consider a cam swap that is compatible with your heads and pistons.

Carl
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by silverbullitt
The 257 cam is the stumbling block here. After much discussion with guys "in the know" I went with a 211. Way way better low end torque. The 257 starts doing it's job over about 4000.
Well i guess i'll live with what i got. its pretty awesome i was just tryin to improve
 
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What about changing your primary gearing to 3.37? You will get more pull in the low end and only slightly higher rpms at cruising speed.
 
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Originally Posted by Harleypingman
The numbers are not the problem; it's where the power occurs, and that's primarily a function of the cams you have which are a high rpm cam, so it's not surprising that riding at 2000-3000 rpms around town you get little, if any, benefit from the build.

Check-out HD's Screamin Eagle information, especially about cams and the intake valve closing specs, in this link:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...bmLocale=en_US

Tuning the bike won't change the power band of your build, though it might help the bike's manners at lower rpms.

If you don't have the SERT key/dongle (it's known by a variety of names), you're SOL and will need to buy a new one or use an alternative tuning device (e.g. TTS, PCV, etc.).

As for a real solution for your riding style, talk to an experienced person and consider a cam swap that is compatible with your heads and pistons.

Carl
Thanks Carl
 
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Doug i never thought of that. Does that require a belt change?
 
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Originally Posted by coolerman69
I have an 05 electraglide with a 95 big bore kit, se heads, se a/c, 257 cams, and rhinehart duals. It dynoed at 102hp and 104 torque. I'm thinkin that torque # is a little low. I have nothing on bottom end at all. At 4000 rpms it comes to life and really screams. Its fast but with no low end torque its not rider friendly for around town cruzin. What is my best solution without spendin a ton of money. Also has a se tuner but i dont have the module.
Nice numbers.Couple of things you can do.Like stated before you can change to a cam with an earlier intake close so,bike will come on cam earlier.It moves the power to the left.You can stick with hd cams or switch to another.You can install a 4 degree advancer.it would move the intake close from a 48 to a 44.that would help a little.You need to find out what comp your at.You could also run a thinner head gasket to raise the comp to match the cams intake close.she would run like a rapped ape then.You decide!!! if you chose to run thinner gasket make sure you have a professional do it because the cams need clearancing!!!
 
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