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You've been here for what, 50 posts and YOU'RE THE ONE with the negative attitude. All he said was he needed a straight answer, how is that confrontational???
To the OP, I'm not positive of if they've got the download or not, but after the last three bikes you've had you didn't just go with a fuel management system. If I was doing any kind of engine modifications (which I'm in the middle of right now) there's no way I'd go with a factory download. You'll never get as much performance out of a download as you will a good fuel management system.
You'll be hard pressed to get any better advice than this man has given.
It sounds like you've got performance on your mind. The best way to get that after adding your components is a fuel management system and a dyno tune.
Foel Moto can probably help you with a map, if you'd bought the PC5 from them it would have come with a map for free. I still think they can help you out.
Not a bad tuner myself and with the PCV, I should have the puppy back by friday. Originally was just going to do the stage II and leave it at that. But, in roadblock utimately are taking me where I would have gone...just quicker.
Let me say this, I now have a 2011 Street Glide. I have owned a 2007,2008 and 2009 touring bikes. The parts catalog for those years show a Stage II upgrade to a 103 w/SE 255 cams, SE A/C and mufflers. Noted by the entry for this kit is the necessity to purchase a download to the stock ECM. That denotes HD has a download.
I am not privy at this time to the parts catalog for the 2011 bikes. However, does anyone know for a fact that a download exists for the 2011 bikes w/Stage II kit?
Yard,I wouldn't worry about the download.If you do a 103 HD kit your build will call for more than just a simple download.You will need a tuning device to help correct A/F ratios.Have the kit done if you chose & pic a cam that will match the comp & your riding style.Then have it dyno tuned with a tuning device.I would use the TTS Mastertune.You have to find a tuner fluent with it's use.It's the cadillac of tuners.It's the same people who made the SERT for Harley,only it's a newer improved version!!!
I have used the V&H fuelpak, Terry components Terminal velocity, and the T-max in the past. Best one of the three was the T-max. Was looking to keep it simple for warranty puposes(all HD). After 2 years and 60-70K, would have been time to go the full boat and out of warranty. This bike only has 1K right now. But, fate intervenes and you just deal with it.
I don't think I will be unhappy with the set up on the bike.....just if I knew that there wasn't a download...would have used different cam. I like the dynocharts on the woods cams if you have seen the thread.
And as for the Jul 07 join date...that was on the first harley. I read alot and only post when I have info or questions....you won't see alot of posts just to get my numbers up...lol
An aftermarket fuel management system will only void your warranty if whatever goes wrong with the bike is directly related to the fuel management system. Some dealerships may try to tell you otherwise, but they're wrong. Someone here will post a link to that thread (because I forgot the exact name of it). It's called the "Moss" something...something.
Oh, by the way the bike came as a 103 from the factory....I think HD should have put the SE255 in the bike there....I really don't see added costs for them. But...leave the cam out and you get folks like me that will do what I did...lol. More money...lol
... my view is that having to specify that you need a straight answer implies that you've asked for and received less than a straight answer in the past. Since the question is being asked for the first time, I pointed out (clearly imho) that I found it confrontational, maybe needlessly defensive would be a better choice of words.
The replies that followed clearly showed we hadn't reached bottom here on the forum. For those of you that decided to take shots at me because I only listed my last two bikes, or have some sort of issue with CVO owners -- to each their own.
For Yardstick -- I had to leave to tuck the kids in bed, so I couldn't finish hunting through the updates list on my copy of the SEPST as each update lists changes seperately. With that being said, here are the calibration files listed for 2011 as of update 6 (a week or two ago, there haven't been any since). From my "lofty" CVO perch most if not all of these show up when I plug the bike in, which leads me to believe the ECU's are similar.
I have the service manuals for the 11 touring bikes if there's a specific part you're concerned about.
Labeled as 2011 Touring
1580 'All Market' SE A/C & Race Exhaust 44AAG002
1690 'All Market' SE A/C & Race Exhaust 44AAO002
1690 Stage 2 44AAR001
Labeled as 2010 Touring
1690 Stage 4 009SAS007
1690 Stage 4 w/254E cams 009SBJ001
1800 Pro Upgrade kit 009SBH001
1800 Pro Upgrade kit w/58mm Throttle Body 009SBF001
1962 SE Pro 120 CI Race Kit 009SAZ003
Labeled as 2009 Touring
1690 Stage 4 009SBA001
1690 Stage 4 w/254E cams 009SBK001
1800 Pro Upgrade kit 009SBI001
1800 Pro Upgrade kit w/58mm Throttle Body 009SAY002
1962 SE Pro 120 CI Race Kit 009SBG001
Labeled as 2007-2010
1800 Pro Upgrade kit 176SBM003
1580 Stage 2 w/204 cams 176ST002
1962 SE Pro 120 CI Race Kit 176SBL001
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