Mastertune vs PC V
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2006
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I am looking at that for my new 2011--looks easy to use and supports different changes down the road without the need for a dyno. Kind of makes up for the fact that is almost triple the price of the TTS.....
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: southeastern, ma
i'm going with sepst. i got one new on ebay for a great price. cables and cd also on ebay. i will not need the speedo calibration (sepst may have that anyway) and if i cant increase the redline (not sure there either), i'm not a hot rodder anyway. just really want a cooler bike and a little better performance with my cams and stage 1.
thing with sepst that i loose is the ability to save stock map. i guess if i ever need that in the future i can have a dealer do it.
tin
thing with sepst that i loose is the ability to save stock map. i guess if i ever need that in the future i can have a dealer do it.
tin
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2008
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ran both
The power packages from Fuel Moto are very close, I am sure the only differances are a little bike to bike as they dyno each package. I had one on my 08 RK.
I have a TTS on my 2011 Limited, running Jackpot mufflers and AC from Fuelmoto. The maps available through TTS for what I have are close, bike runs great. The one concern I have is how close will the canned maps on the TTS sight be if I put the non cat head pipe and 255 cams in. They show a map for the 255 cams, but I don't know if that is with or without cats. So to me it boils down to what mods you will make in the future and who has the proper canned maps, or are you willing to spend the $$ on the dyno.
I have a TTS on my 2011 Limited, running Jackpot mufflers and AC from Fuelmoto. The maps available through TTS for what I have are close, bike runs great. The one concern I have is how close will the canned maps on the TTS sight be if I put the non cat head pipe and 255 cams in. They show a map for the 255 cams, but I don't know if that is with or without cats. So to me it boils down to what mods you will make in the future and who has the proper canned maps, or are you willing to spend the $$ on the dyno.
Former Sponsor
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From: Los Angeles, CA
My dyno guy prefers the mastertune to anything else available. It allows you to change the setting for the highest number of things of any tuner on the market. I am planning on getting one and taking my back for another Dyno tune so I can compare the difference to that of the PCIII.
Drew
Drew
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From: NorCal
My dyno guy prefers the mastertune to anything else available. It allows you to change the setting for the highest number of things of any tuner on the market. I am planning on getting one and taking my back for another Dyno tune so I can compare the difference to that of the PCIII.
Drew
Drew
My bike is set to 1:1. I may put it back to make it smoother...
The other difference you should see is better fuel economy. PCIII's and most PCV's are running open loop all the time. The TTS will allow your tuner to program closed-loop running, searching for an AFR around 14.2. You'll have a cooler running bike that's efficient on the highway.
I understand the ease of a PCV, but I've never been able to wrap my head around removing the O2 sensors. Never made sense to me to ditch a tuning aid and run off only a map.
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
You can also add the Auto-Tune kit to the PCV, which also auto-tunes AFR's on the fly, sampling at 50x/sec. It may be a cheaper solution than T'Max and works very well. Be advised too that with non-TBW (cable) applications T'Max disables the ECM's knock-sensing feature, as well as the MAP sensor's full range of features, while the PCV keeps all on-board ECM sensors fully operational. I don't know if this is still the case with TBW bikes, but Jamie would know. He sells both.
Last edited by iclick; Oct 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM.