ECM calibration
fabrik8tr, thanks for the response. If my responses change from thread to thread - that's because i'm still trying to learn. YES - my plan is ever-changing. I want to figure out not only the cheapest way (smart) but also the best way (smarter).You obviously have put a lot of thought into the subject. I'm new to EFI and have recently gone from a Hardtail Chop to a FLHX. (cadillac). Tuning a carb seamed comparably easy. ECM is more involved. The more I read, the more I learn. What would your opinion be on using 2 into 2 VH headers ( no CAT ) with the Rinehart slip ons. No a/c until I can cash up for a tuner ( type and brand to be determined ). VIEDS seem popular, but all I read is while they do work by fooling the ECM, the best thing is proper fuel management. I'm no aggressive rider by any means, but I do want a proper running bike that sounds and performs like a 96" twin cam can. thoughts .
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Bro the big issue with your proposed mod is going from an OEM 2:1 to a 2:2 exhaust. Your ECM is mapped for the 2:1, the 2:2 will perform completely different from the 2:1, and therefore require a different map to support it. The current map won’t be “close enough” to perform acceptably with the 2:2. The cheapest things you could do right now without getting a tuner would be a single slip on for the OEM 2:1 header or a catless 2:1 header with the OEM muffler. Either of those would be counterproductive and a waste of money since you are planning for the 2:2. Save your bucks, do it all at once; exhaust, air cleaner, and tuner, and tune it once. Don’t be apprehensive about EFI, you know carbs so you know the fundamentals, EFI is just a more precise method of fuel delivery that works better over a wider range of operating conditions. Its too easy, just get to reading.
You are not changing just the flow of the exhaust. You are changing the dynamics.
2 into 1 vs. 2 into 2. It no longer fits into the catagory of "do pipes and A/C need a tune", because you are doing more than adding more flow.
Your stock ECM map was not made for the pipe you intend to use and there might be more than just adding fuel involved. There may also be some timing considerations for one cylinder or the other or both.
Now if you were to add slip-ons to your stock headpipe, that would be different.
2 into 1 vs. 2 into 2. It no longer fits into the catagory of "do pipes and A/C need a tune", because you are doing more than adding more flow.
Your stock ECM map was not made for the pipe you intend to use and there might be more than just adding fuel involved. There may also be some timing considerations for one cylinder or the other or both.
Now if you were to add slip-ons to your stock headpipe, that would be different.
Okay - after reading and talkng to the people who have both the knowledge and experience, both good and bad, here is what I went with for my 2010 FLHX:
Vance and Hines Dresser Dual headers ( I plugged the O2 ports)
Arlen Ness Big Sucker A/C
Power Commander five ( great price at 'morepowerracing.com' - pre-programmed for $280.00 ).
I did the mods and went for a ride today, only a brisk 37 degrees out, the bike runs like a champ - no issues. Thx for all the advice. These threads are very useful.
I plan on adding the PCV auto-tune when I get the funds
Vance and Hines Dresser Dual headers ( I plugged the O2 ports)
Arlen Ness Big Sucker A/C
Power Commander five ( great price at 'morepowerracing.com' - pre-programmed for $280.00 ).
I did the mods and went for a ride today, only a brisk 37 degrees out, the bike runs like a champ - no issues. Thx for all the advice. These threads are very useful.
I plan on adding the PCV auto-tune when I get the funds
Guys, I'm looking to change my 2010 FLHX 2 into 1 header. I want to use the HD 2 into 2 headers that HD put out this year. I have a pair of Rinehart slip on's given to me by a friend. HD catalog says the ECM will need to be re calibrated. I'm not changing the Air intake, it will stay stock.
Do I really need to re calibrate ?
Thanks, any help would be great. I'm searching the site for an answer.
Do I really need to re calibrate ?
Thanks, any help would be great. I'm searching the site for an answer.
Last edited by joflewbyu2; Mar 7, 2011 at 07:19 PM.
All, just came across this thread and subscribed to it. Been thinking about the exhaust swap myself but, I'm swapping out my 2010 FLHX's 2:1 for a completely stock 2010 FLH 2:2 system with stock mufflers for now (for symmetry).
I have a similar background as Rocket4 having owned nothing but Shovels till now so I'm trying to soak up as much about "tuning" as possible. If I do this swap and touch nothing else, can I get away without touching the ECM?
I have a similar background as Rocket4 having owned nothing but Shovels till now so I'm trying to soak up as much about "tuning" as possible. If I do this swap and touch nothing else, can I get away without touching the ECM?
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