Saddlebag Lid Speaker Kits
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I want to add speakers in the back of my Street Glide so my girlfriend can hear the stereo better. I have the J&M 7.25" fairing speakers and amp, which really sound great. But with my pipes and at high speeds, I have to crank up the volume for her to hear it. I thought about speaker pods for the Tour Pak I'm going to buy, but I'm only going to use the Tour Pak on long rides.... So I'm thinking about the saddlebag lid speakers.
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Tourer
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07FLHT--Thanks for your input. You may be right about me using the tour pak more than I think I will; however, I do a fair amount of solo riding with my solo seat, and like the sleeker look of my bike in the solo configuration. But the rear speaker pods with the tour pak will let me know if having rear speakers is worth modifying my saddlebag lids. It's a bit pricey to buy the speaker pods, and then later buy a saddlebag lid kit. But let's face it, tweaking your bike is a never ending process (or obsession).
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I am working on some hard bags for my softail right now so I think i will be getting these as well. As soon as I finalize a deal on the bags, I will order teh lids up. I already have all the speakers and wiring harness and everything on my bike so it will be a very simple swap. I just need a painter who is good and affordable locally.
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I believe you have to have the rear channels turned on if you want to use the fade control.
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"I believe you have to have the rear channels turned on if you want to use the fade control."
That is true. You have to go to the dealer, they will take your bike out back for an hour (for a five minute job), reprogram the radio and charge you $73 (at least that's what they charged me).
That is true. You have to go to the dealer, they will take your bike out back for an hour (for a five minute job), reprogram the radio and charge you $73 (at least that's what they charged me).
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From: Buckeye, AZ
"I believe you have to have the rear channels turned on if you want to use the fade control."
That is true. You have to go to the dealer, they will take your bike out back for an hour (for a five minute job), reprogram the radio and charge you $73 (at least that's what they charged me).
That is true. You have to go to the dealer, they will take your bike out back for an hour (for a five minute job), reprogram the radio and charge you $73 (at least that's what they charged me).
I was under the impression that this was only necessary if you want the front/rear fader function of the radio turned on. Otherwise you will still get signal from the rear speaker outputs, just no ability to fade it. Am I wrong here? I plan on doing exactly what Carl described in his earlier post but did not intend to have this fader option activated.
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Impedance in parallel
Although I agree with most of what Harleypingman stated I think it's worth noting that if you parallel 4 ohm speakers with 2 ohm speakers you will not have an equivalent impedance of 3 ohm. When paralleling, you will always have an equivalent impedance less than that of the either speaker independently. In this case you will get 1.33 ohms which the amp may or may not be stable supplying. If one where to series the speakers, you would have an equivalent impedance of 6 ohms.
Let's forget about the reason you are considering a change to your bike's sound system and consider some alternatives.
First, you can simply wire the speakers in parallell (both pairs of + and - terminals wired together to the corresponding + and - output terminals of the J&M amp. If you use 4 ohm impedance speakers for the second pair, and the front fairing speakers are 2 ohm, your amp will see 3 ohm impedance which is fine for the amp and it will still play plenty loud.
Second, you can keep everything the way you have it now and simply wire up the second pair of speakers as "rear" speakers to the HK head unit for under $50 in parts. You'll need the 35 wire connector that plugs into the back of the radio and the wire sockets that attach to the wires when the connector is assembled. The 35 wire connector is p/n 72384-06BK, and the sockets for the wire ends are p/n 72381-98. The pinouts for the rear speakers are: right rear +/- use chambers 1 and 24 of the connector; and, left rear use chambers 2 and 25. Assemble the connector, plug it in to the HK, and you'll have the rear speaker signals for the second pair of speakers. Take the bike to the HD service dept. and they can turn "on" the fader control if you want it. If they charge anything at all, it should be no more than a 1/2 hour to do the flash.
There's nothing "special" about fabbing your own 35 wire connector to access the rear speaker pinouts of the HK radio. HD does the same thing on the '11 CVO SG by using 5 pinouts to connect the Ipod interface, and sells a harness for adding the XM radio that does the same thing.
Personally, I wouldn't spend much $$$ to mod my bike for a girl friend, but then again the shelf-life of girl friends isn't all that long; certainly much shorter than the shelf life of my bike. With that J&M amp, it should play plenty loud enough for her to hear; perhaps, she has a hearing problem?
Or it's simply her way of testing your comittment to her.
Good luck.
Carl
First, you can simply wire the speakers in parallell (both pairs of + and - terminals wired together to the corresponding + and - output terminals of the J&M amp. If you use 4 ohm impedance speakers for the second pair, and the front fairing speakers are 2 ohm, your amp will see 3 ohm impedance which is fine for the amp and it will still play plenty loud.
Second, you can keep everything the way you have it now and simply wire up the second pair of speakers as "rear" speakers to the HK head unit for under $50 in parts. You'll need the 35 wire connector that plugs into the back of the radio and the wire sockets that attach to the wires when the connector is assembled. The 35 wire connector is p/n 72384-06BK, and the sockets for the wire ends are p/n 72381-98. The pinouts for the rear speakers are: right rear +/- use chambers 1 and 24 of the connector; and, left rear use chambers 2 and 25. Assemble the connector, plug it in to the HK, and you'll have the rear speaker signals for the second pair of speakers. Take the bike to the HD service dept. and they can turn "on" the fader control if you want it. If they charge anything at all, it should be no more than a 1/2 hour to do the flash.
There's nothing "special" about fabbing your own 35 wire connector to access the rear speaker pinouts of the HK radio. HD does the same thing on the '11 CVO SG by using 5 pinouts to connect the Ipod interface, and sells a harness for adding the XM radio that does the same thing.
Personally, I wouldn't spend much $$$ to mod my bike for a girl friend, but then again the shelf-life of girl friends isn't all that long; certainly much shorter than the shelf life of my bike. With that J&M amp, it should play plenty loud enough for her to hear; perhaps, she has a hearing problem?
Or it's simply her way of testing your comittment to her.
Good luck.
Carl
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