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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeboztx
Can't believe no one has told you 565 is available at HD dealer or they can order it. it's on page 807 in the '11 accessory catalog. I used it when I did mine.
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My HD did not carry it, but could order it. I just needed it before they could deliver. My fault for not reading the instructions prior to starting the job.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:20 AM
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been thinking about puting a gauge in mine , are the wires already there ? and another mod to maybe do while in there is hooking the driving lights up so they stay on all the time , THINK SPRING
I don't know what you have now, so if it has an air temp gauge, then the wires are already there. My oem air gauge had two connectors on it, one connector has an orange and a black wire, the other connector has three wires, but those wires/connector are not used. The instructions say to cut off the connector of the orange and black wires, put terminals, and connect to the gauge. In retrospect, if I had done that, I guess they would have been long enough to pull out thru the hole to allow me to install on the gauge. Instead, I added an orange jumper wire, and a black jumper wire with a blade on the opposite end, and just inserted both of them into the correct wire color of the Oem plug, taped it up, and good to go. If I have any issues with my installation, I will see if the connector is long enough to work thruough the gauge hole, and also swap the bulb from the air gauge.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:21 AM
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Permatex 565 is liquid teflon.
It's white.
The same **** teflon tape is made of.
Wrap some teflon tape around the threads and call it a day.
That's all we use on oil drain bolts and these sensors.

In my opinion, that liquid teflon, 565, isn't worth a damn anyway.
It never dries to create a seal.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandcrab
I don't know what you have now, so if it has an air temp gauge, then the wires are already there. My oem air gauge had two connectors on it, one connector has an orange and a black wire, the other connector has three wires, but those wires/connector are not used. The instructions say to cut off the connector of the orange and black wires, put terminals, and connect to the gauge. In retrospect, if I had done that, I guess they would have been long enough to pull out thru the hole to allow me to install on the gauge. Instead, I added an orange jumper wire, and a black jumper wire with a blade on the opposite end, and just inserted both of them into the correct wire color of the Oem plug, taped it up, and good to go. If I have any issues with my installation, I will see if the connector is long enough to work thruough the gauge hole, and also swap the bulb from the air gauge.
thanks I have a 07 Ultra , I asume then there is a wire at the motor also then
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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While we're on the subject, does anybody have a torque spec on the HD sensor? The directions don't say and I have a tendency to over tighten.
Harley says 8 to 10 ft-lbs. for the oil pressure sensor so I would guess about the same for that.
 

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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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thanks I have a 07 Ultra , I asume then there is a wire at the motor also then
No don't assume that. The wire from the sensor comes in the package with the oil temp gauge and sensor. After you install the sensor you have to run the wire from sensor to the temp gauge. Very easy to do. There are wires on the air temp gauge that have to be disconnected. I believe one of the wires you disconnected is used again to supply power to the oil temp gauge for light etc.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Harley says 8 to 10 ft-lbs. for the oil pressure sensor so I would guess about the same for that.
The service manual states 14-21 ft lbs for the oil drain plug. The oil drain plug is smaller than the NPT pipe plug I removed to install the pipe adapter and electrical sensor.

My thinking was 20 ft lbs for the pipe thread adapter and the electrical sensor because my torque wrench's lowest setting was 20 ft lbs.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Nute
No don't assume that. The wire from the sensor comes in the package with the oil temp gauge and sensor. After you install the sensor you have to run the wire from sensor to the temp gauge. Very easy to do. There are wires on the air temp gauge that have to be disconnected. I believe one of the wires you disconnected is used again to supply power to the oil temp gauge for light etc.
The instructions indicate you can run the wire from the sensor up one of the down tubes and into the fairing. I've never been satisfied with the look of anything running along the down tubes so I ran mine back up the vertical tube under the seat, under the tank and into the fairing with all the other wires. Yes you will have to extend the wire supplied with the gauge/sensor. I may be making an easy job much more complicated but I like the look without any wires running up the down tubes.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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No don't assume that. The wire from the sensor comes in the package with the oil temp gauge and sensor. After you install the sensor you have to run the wire from sensor to the temp gauge. Very easy to do. There are wires on the air temp gauge that have to be disconnected. I believe one of the wires you disconnected is used again to supply power to the oil temp gauge for light etc.
Nute is correct. There are two connectors on the back of the air gauge. One connector has three wires, and is not reused. The other connector on the back of the air gauge has two wires (an orange and a black) and both of these wires are used. The black is ground and orange is power to light the backlight for night time use.

The new oil temp gauge isn't plug and play. The wire bundle that comes with the HD kit, has two wires that run from the sensor in the oil pan along the frame up to the gauge. One wire is black (ground) and one is yellow. The sensor end of this harness has a plug that plugs into the sensor plug at the oil pan. The other end has two unterminated wires. When you have the wires run and ready to install onto the oil temp gauge, put an electrical terminal onto the yellow wire and one on the black wire, and connect to the temp gauge.

Now remember the orange and black wires from the AIR gauge connector, the directions say to cut off the connector, and put a terminal on the black wire and a terminal on the orange wire. The black wire goes on the same post as the other black wire and the orange goes on it's own post.

You end up with two black wires, on a post, one yellow on a post and one orange on a post on the new gauge.

Like Nute said, it's not that hard, but working in the limited space behind the fairing was frustrating. I kept dropping the nuts.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Good day, Sandcrab.

Do you have difficult getting the nuts off and on the terminals on the guages?

I installed an oil temperature in my '03 FLHT and had one heck of a time securing the nuts on the terminals and trying to get find space to tighten them down?

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