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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSTONFATBOB
My bike was bone stock when first brought to the dealer probably why I got sent out the door. Second time pipes air cams PC5. After research I thought the SE compensator would change things it did for good and bad

That really blows. I still look at it as you got screwed by the dealer just as much as you got screwed by the MoCo. It's the dealers job to find the problem. Unfortunately the the system is broken. If you would've demanded that they check your run out, and if they did and didn't find anything wrong, you wouldn't of been happy about paying them for the part and labor. In your case they would've found something wrong and HD would've covered it. Like I said, there are tons of things that can cause exessive vibration on your bike. The dealer just checks the quick and easy things (engine mounts, wheel balancing, compensator etc.) and if they all check out they'll say all is good. If the dealers did the job thouroughly HD might take a more serious look at it. Or they'd just raise the specs again.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Well I'll tell you all, I'm not at all happy about my crank measuring out at .008". I brought the bike in to check on the excessive vibration. I've had 2 sets of fairing brackets replaced, two stereos, and I added a velva ride front engine mount. It needs a third stereo and the extended warranty is about to expire (June). The spec is 0.012" and nothing will be done. I've got 43k miles and although I ride it fast, I don't beat on it (no wheelies or burnouts). I love the bike but damn, this isn't right.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mongomark
Well I'll tell you all, I'm not at all happy about my crank measuring out at .008". I brought the bike in to check on the excessive vibration. I've had 2 sets of fairing brackets replaced, two stereos, and I added a velva ride front engine mount. It needs a third stereo and the extended warranty is about to expire (June). The spec is 0.012" and nothing will be done. I've got 43k miles and although I ride it fast, I don't beat on it (no wheelies or burnouts). I love the bike but damn, this isn't right.
That really sucks... I fear its only a matter of time before mine does the same thing if it isnt already. I agree with you... its not right in any way shape or form. This very issue is making me seriously consider buying an ESP. Any thoughts on that just for this problem right here? Would an ESP pay for everything except the true and weld?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mongomark
Well I'll tell you all, I'm not at all happy about my crank measuring out at .008". I brought the bike in to check on the excessive vibration. I've had 2 sets of fairing brackets replaced, two stereos, and I added a velva ride front engine mount. It needs a third stereo and the extended warranty is about to expire (June). The spec is 0.012" and nothing will be done. I've got 43k miles and although I ride it fast, I don't beat on it (no wheelies or burnouts). I love the bike but damn, this isn't right.
Sounds like you are in need of several hard downshifts before June...
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 05:51 AM
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Sounds like you are in need of several hard downshifts before June...
He'd still have to find a dealer or authorized warranty shop willing to tear into the cam area to do a run out.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1931jamesw
That really sucks... I fear its only a matter of time before mine does the same thing if it isnt already. I agree with you... its not right in any way shape or form. This very issue is making me seriously consider buying an ESP. Any thoughts on that just for this problem right here? Would an ESP pay for everything except the true and weld?
Yes ESP would pay for everything to put it back to how it was. In your case everything but the plug and weld. They would have to pay to have it trued though, since that would be the basis of the claim, that or pay to replace it. Any upgrades would be on you, at least the difference in parts. I had something go through my oil pump 2 years ago and it broke, I couldn't see anything in the cam area where the metal came from, so I suspected somehing was broke in the bottom end. We called the ES company and told them that we had to get into the bottom end. They said fine, but, if we didn't find anything in there wrong they wouldn't pay for it.(Sounds resonable, we can always find SOMETHING wrong if we look hard enough, hehe). Anyways, I decided since they were paying all labor to take down and reassemble it was a perfect time for the 110 kit. Anyways, they basically picked up $1900 of my build. I had to pay the $50 deductible and all upgraded parts. (110 heads and head work, jugs, pistons, case boring, etc.) Keep in mind that ES doesn't cover non-stock motors, so it's good to have a stock set of cams and stuff laying around to through on the lift in case they do an inspection, which in my case they did send an adjuster out.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by harleytuner
He'd still have to find a dealer or authorized warranty shop willing to tear into the cam area to do a run out.

I'd check it myself to make sure I made it over the .012 threshold, before pressuring the shop.
Then ride it in, tell them it's over .012, "time to fix it" and walk away. (before June in his case).

Do lots of hard downshifts, and early hard upshifts. Perhaps a burnout or too. If it's .008 now, it won't require much effort to take it the rest of the way.

Dog eat dog world. Do what you gotta do.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by harleytuner
Yes ESP would pay for everything to put it back to how it was. Keep in mind that ES doesn't cover non-stock motors, so it's good to have a stock set of cams and stuff laying around to through on the lift in case they do an inspection, which in my case they did send an adjuster out.
Call me old-fashioned, but that's FELONY ( over $750,) Insurance Fraud.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Stiggy
Call me old-fashioned, but that's FELONY ( over $750,) Insurance Fraud.
You are old fashioned.

Switching a bad crank with a good crank, would be insurance fraud.

They are supposed to pay for the bad crank, but will use every possible loophole to avoid payment.
One has to close up the loopholes, in order to get what's rightfully his.
Reinstalling the stock cams would lessen the chance of the insurance company screwing you.



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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Hey, harleytuner, hope all is going well for you.
I was one of the, my Dyna vibrates like hell guys. I was so happy last year at this time with my first BT 10 FXDC, I loved it at first, until I took her up over 4200 rpm. When at high rpm it would go in to harsh motor vibration. I know 2 guys with TC Dyna and both of them smooth out very nice at high rpm, mine sure in hell didn't. I spent the rest of the Summer trying every thing I could to fix it. I then took it to 3 HD Dealers and all of them said, THAT'S NORMAL. after I fond out the run-out is 0.12 they was right and yet so wrong. I then took it to 3 Indys, 2 of them drove it and one put her on a dyno and did a bad tune, they all could feel it but didn't think it was over 12, most all of them felt it was around the 7-9 range.
I then took it all the way down to Ohio from Michigan to harleytuner and had them tune it to see if they could smooth out the bad tune Indy #3 did. Harleytuners guy said he could feel the vibes too. I can say harleytuners guy did a great job on the tune and got it back to the way it was when new, plus more power. I cant say enough what a great experiences I had at the shop harleytuner works at. I highly recommend them.
So after that I came very close to buying a 11 Polaris Vegas, I wanted the Cross Roads but I find them a bit ugly so I went for the Vegas, but after a test ride the Polaris just didn't do it for me. I then traded my Dyna in on a 11 RK. I sure hope things go better this year.
 
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