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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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I switched to Brad Penn after this last summer. Amsoil was breaking down like water. I believe catalytic converter was heating up the engine oil. I replaced head pipe couple weeks ago with a ceramic coated head pipe from Fuel Moto, should greatly reduce heat.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Uh.....I'm new here.....ummmm, whats the best oil to use?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Yambo
I switched to Brad Penn after this last summer. Amsoil was breaking down like water. I believe catalytic converter was heating up the engine oil. I replaced head pipe couple weeks ago with a ceramic coated head pipe from Fuel Moto, should greatly reduce heat.
Where do you buy Brad Penn ?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Faast Ed
**** poor argument.

Bearings fail all the time. Cam journals, bushings, cylinder wear,.... hell, there are endless threads of people having failures!
Do you really think lubrication didn't have anything to do with any of them????

Since when do mechanics send weekly reports to Washington documenting causes of failures?
Not necessarily, if someone is going to blame a failure on a particular oil then they need to be able to prove it.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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...don't forget the pop corn!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCoLoco
Not necessarily, if someone is going to blame a failure on a particular oil then they need to be able to prove it.
And we all know that is impossible to do.


Yet people still use that in their arguments, knowing there is no way possible.

Dude in a thread recently was advocating running car tires on his bagger.
Claims they handle well and are safe.
He defied us to show him proof that they can cause handling issues.
He wanted statistics from accidents they caused.
Swear somebody keeps statistics of every tire in an accident! (or oil used during engine failures).

**** poor argument and I stand by that.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Yambo
I switched to Brad Penn after this last summer. Amsoil was breaking down like water. I believe catalytic converter was heating up the engine oil.
As I understand it with synthetics, oil "flowing like water" is a good thing. It has nothing to do with loss of protection. The motor needs oil FLOW, not oil pressure. And the faster the flow, ( like water,) the cooler the motor.

20W50 Synthetic is a 50 weight oil. 20W50 Mineral is a 20 weight with additives to make it stand up like a 50 weight. That's why synthetic lasts longer, it doesn't need the "thickening" additves.

Or so I've been taught....
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCoLoco
Not necessarily, if someone is going to blame a failure on a particular oil then they need to be able to prove it.
One could set up a national database.

Every shop could be required (or requested) to report all bearing failures and what type of oil was in the motor.
This would show a clear trend as to which oils are protecting better.

But would it be rock solid proof? No. Wouldn't help any civil action.
Who would fund such a thing? Nobody. Nothing to gain.

So when people are arguing for their favorite oil, and mention such a ridiculous argument as to "show me proof", they lose the argument before they even hit the "submit" button (as far as I am concerned).
 
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there are MANY threads on this!!! just do search & amsoil.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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I've read many of the posts in this thread and everyone makes a good point that there are good synthetics out there. I personally run Amsoil in all of my vehicles, and I am an Amsoil Dealer who's been a New Car Dealer Parts manager for 22 years now. The data to support reasons to use Amsoil is extensive. My main reason for running Amsoil is for the cooling factor. When I first switched my 07 FLHR that's bone stock minus air and exhaust upgrades, I immediately gained a 21 degree drop in engine oil temp. That was a switch from HD Syn3. Amsoil will run our engines considerably cooler, factor that into the fact that we all rely on air to cool our engines was enough to convince me to make the switch. Heat caused by friction is our biggest enemy when it comes to what oil to use. I have yet to find a product that will run my v-twin cooler than Amsoil, and that's all I need to know. I have extensive data to support reasons I use Amsoil, and if anyone's interested in learning more feel free to PM me and I will try to answer any questions you have. I can also provide you with Amsoil at a wholesale price shipped to your door, and you can see the difference for yourself.....
 
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