When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Yes the 120R does and can burn fuel. I get anywhere from 28 to low 40's MPG on my 120R. I don't feel like I wasted my money, thats right my money, because the engine has made my Limited into a Harley I really enjoy. So when I start spending your money I'll care about your thoughts on the 120R in my bike.
Sounds like your trying to win friends and influence people...
who gives a chit about gas mileage --its 120ci -- don't be a hater
Originally Posted by DanDil
Lets talk real world. A 120 will burn up the fuel and you'll get way less milage...unless you baby it. If you actually baby it to get better milage, why waste the money on a 120? I can't slow down with a 96, let alone a hot rod bike. If you had a 120, you will ride fast.
who gives a chit about gas mileage --its 120ci -- don't be a hater
Exactly, if you don't want a 120R or can't afford the gas the solution is simple don't buy one. But don't waste any breath justifying your decision.
I wanted a 120R I bought one. I also have another bike to ride in case it breaks, hot rods do that it is the nature of high performance rides. To date I have had zero problems with this bike and believe that Harley factored more longevity into the build than folks realize. The "off road" only language is a dodge around EPA requirements in my opinion.
Well time to go ride my unreliable bike for a while...
Everything I got from everyone I spoke with is, the 120R is over kill and not needed for touring. Plus for a touring bike placing a race motor you have to question the reliability. Not to mention the heat issues you will have. If you have the money and don't care about the heat and are not worried about the reliability question, go with it. It will be more than enough power.
Not a 120R, but I ran my 120" HQ build for 50k miles before selling the bike. Rode all over the US. I actually tore the engine down before selling it just to see what the wear was, it was like new inside. Bottom line is that if you ride it like you would any other bike, it will last a long, long time. Any engine that you continually "beat" on will have less of a life, but don't not buy a 120R just due to fear of longevity. Heat is a tuning issue, mine ran at 205 degree down the interstate at 80mph, no issues there, that is way cooler than a stock engine.
Originally Posted by flatfifth2003
as hp and tq go up, the reliabilty factor goes down, the more hp and torque you have the more often things break.jmho. besides the driveline being susceptable to damage, the motor itself will not have the longevity of a milder build.
Just not true, it depends on riding style. I never had a single item break in 50k miles.
Originally Posted by flatfifth2003
it doesn't have a primary,clutch, tranny etc.? my point is stuff will break and often.
Again, just not true.
Originally Posted by DanDil
Lets talk real world. A 120 will burn up the fuel and you'll get way less milage...unless you baby it. If you actually baby it to get better milage, why waste the money on a 120? I can't slow down with a 96, let alone a hot rod bike. If you had a 120, you will ride fast.
With a proper tune, and not flogging the engine continually, you should get 40-45 mpg. That is not bad compared to stock. Yes, you can drive that down into the 20s but again riding style is the determining factor. Rode my 120 on a 6k mile trip out west and averaged 40 mpg for the whole trip - mountains, running 80mph, etc and still performed well with good mileage.
Only thing, going back to the original poster's message, is that I would pull the cams that come with the 120R and drop in some HQ 575s, T-Man 590's or similar cams to bring the torque curve back to the left a little to put the peak power lower in the rpm band, especially on a bagger.
This should be the engine the motor company puts in their bikes from the factory. The 96 and 103 are just very sad to say the least in stock form. At least now that i installed the 120s the bikes now can pass two up and get out of their own way.
This should be the engine the motor company puts in their bikes from the factory. The 96 and 103 are just very sad to say the least in stock form. At least now that i installed the 120s the bikes now can pass two up and get out of their own way.
The 120 is nice if you want your ***** flying behind you...but there is nothing wrong with the stock 96 or 103. Some people don't care for high torque or speed...I have had bikes like that in the past, loved them, then I grew up and got a bagger. A stock 103 is a fine machine...to each his own.
Good feedback on the 120R. Is there anyone else besides the white SG running a D&D Fatcat with the 120R? Wandering what the dyno #'s are with a stock 120R and Fatcat. I know D&D recommends the Zilla but I have a Fatcat (NIB) already and don't want to spend the cash on another exhaust system. Initial plans were to do a T-Man 107" kit but the 120R sounds pretty sweet.
Good feedback on the 120R. Is there anyone else besides the white SG running a D&D Fatcat with the 120R? Wandering what the dyno #'s are with a stock 120R and Fatcat. I know D&D recommends the Zilla but I have a Fatcat (NIB) already and don't want to spend the cash on another exhaust system. Initial plans were to do a T-Man 107" kit but the 120R sounds pretty sweet.
You will be ok with the fatcat but the bosszilla will make more hp. If you look at white sg numbers he makes a ton of torque early.
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.
Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.
Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.