questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
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questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
I may be changing a little with my plans for this winter. I had planned on only doing a 26g cam swap, but now I may be thinking about doing a 95 with no headwork also. I got a price from R&R Cycles in Manchester NH (the ones that are frequently in AI magazine) because they are only an hour from me and are one of the best Indy shops around here for tuning and engine builds. They quoted me $130 for boring/honing the cylinders to 95" and $85/hr for dyno tuning. Are these good prices? Also I would need in addition to parts for my cam build SE flattop 1550 pistons, cometic .030 head gasket, top end gasket kit, and what else?? I know about making a piston pin puller, what about the induction alignment tool for reassembly of air cleaner? What do you all do about the pistin pin circlips without having to buy/rent that tool? If I do just the build without headwork do I have to at least get the heads cleaned, or do I just put them back on? If cleaning needed, what is the process? I think that's it for now, I'm sure I'll have more later
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RE: questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
Why not do the heads when ya got it apart? Then get it dynoed at CyberDynoWorld....where you can pick your own sheet...results guaranteed...100/100...no problem!
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ORIGINAL: bountyhunter
Why not do the heads when ya got it apart? Then get it dynoed at CyberDynoWorld....where you can pick your own sheet...results guaranteed...100/100...no problem!
Why not do the heads when ya got it apart? Then get it dynoed at CyberDynoWorld....where you can pick your own sheet...results guaranteed...100/100...no problem!
Dawg ~ $130 is average price. BigBoyz charges the same for 88 ~ 95 bore. Pistons from Zanotti are $108.
If you're considering 95" or cams, you'll get better results with the cams. I'm not sure, bur I would think you're setting yourself up for a pinging situation by increasing the CR with stock cams.
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RE: questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
One of our local dealers Killer Creek roswell georgia, just sent out a flyer 1550 kit installed with all parts and labor, 1500.00, 103 for 07,1600.00 I guess this is a deal if you cant do it yourself.
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RE: questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
Save yourself some money and PORT THE HEADS when you do big bore. It will be money well spent and you won't have to kick yourself for not doing when already apart. We all know about the Harley addiction and you'll end up wanting more power out of your bike later.
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I did my first 95 without the heads being done. It was a 37b build with .030 cometic head gaskets. It ran a hell of a lot better than stock. I had a dfo and then went to a power commander trying to get rid of some ping that happend in real hot weather. I never did get rid of it.
My second build on the same motor included heads and I went with a S&S gear drive and 570 cams. This build flat flys! It will even run on 87 octain with out pinging.
To answer your questions the price for boring is about average. Jusst make sure they use a torque plate while doing the bore. Flat top se pistons 9.5:1 shoud work for you and some one already posted a link where to get them. You will also need a top end gasket kit which comes with both the 88ci and 95ci stock head gaskets. I think cometic also sells a top end gasket kit that you can pick the thickness of the head gasket.
Keep everything clean, put rags in the openings under the jugs and brake hose on the cylinder studs. it's an easy job if you know what your doing.
My second build on the same motor included heads and I went with a S&S gear drive and 570 cams. This build flat flys!
It will even run on 87 octain with out pinging.To answer your questions the price for boring is about average. Jusst make sure they use a torque plate while doing the bore. Flat top se pistons 9.5:1 shoud work for you and some one already posted a link where to get them. You will also need a top end gasket kit which comes with both the 88ci and 95ci stock head gaskets. I think cometic also sells a top end gasket kit that you can pick the thickness of the head gasket.
Keep everything clean, put rags in the openings under the jugs and brake hose on the cylinder studs. it's an easy job if you know what your doing.
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My dealer has a winter special of a 88-95" or 96-103" kits for $1200.00 installed. is this a good price? He said it would be covered by the factory warranty. I have some tiny scratches on my front rocker box and he offered to replace the rocker box and eat the cost so my opinion of these guys is definitely starting to change.
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hmmmm watch the dealers reccomendations.....they like to sell parts that don't always give best performance for the money and you may not be happy.
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RE: questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
ORIGINAL: jeepster09
You are not going to get 103 kit for $1200.00 installed the crank alone sells for close to that unless they are using the crappy cast stroker crank. Also the labor is about 22/24 hours for stroker upgrade. You may want to hold of on changing your opinion quite yet.
That price is about right for 95 upgrade. Just choose combination carefully so that all works together without pinging etc. You are best to use close to stock compression with Andrews 26 or 37 cams or you will get pinging......been there done that.
ORIGINAL: swomack
My dealer has a winter special of a 88-95" or 96-103" kits for $1200.00 installed. is this a good price? He said it would be covered by the factory warranty. I have some tiny scratches on my front rocker box and he offered to replace the rocker box and eat the cost so my opinion of these guys is definitely starting to change.
My dealer has a winter special of a 88-95" or 96-103" kits for $1200.00 installed. is this a good price? He said it would be covered by the factory warranty. I have some tiny scratches on my front rocker box and he offered to replace the rocker box and eat the cost so my opinion of these guys is definitely starting to change.
That price is about right for 95 upgrade. Just choose combination carefully so that all works together without pinging etc. You are best to use close to stock compression with Andrews 26 or 37 cams or you will get pinging......been there done that.
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RE: questions/thoughts on possible 95 job
ORIGINAL: PhilM
Is that: http://www.CyberDynoWorld.BountyHunt...umbershere.htm ?
Dawg ~ $130 is average price. BigBoyz charges the same for 88 ~ 95 bore. Pistons from Zanotti are $108.
If you're considering 95" or cams, you'll get better results with the cams. I'm not sure, bur I would think you're setting yourself up for a pinging situation by increasing the CR with stock cams.
ORIGINAL: bountyhunter
Why not do the heads when ya got it apart? Then get it dynoed at CyberDynoWorld....where you can pick your own sheet...results guaranteed...100/100...no problem!
Why not do the heads when ya got it apart? Then get it dynoed at CyberDynoWorld....where you can pick your own sheet...results guaranteed...100/100...no problem!
Dawg ~ $130 is average price. BigBoyz charges the same for 88 ~ 95 bore. Pistons from Zanotti are $108.
If you're considering 95" or cams, you'll get better results with the cams. I'm not sure, bur I would think you're setting yourself up for a pinging situation by increasing the CR with stock cams.
See what you did...I'm addicted. I do plan on doing it all myself and have a pretty good feel for it as I have been studying and doing my homework[8D]