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Y'all are say'n that the twin cam is a better motor for big HP and TQ upgrades and I buy most of what your saying but... I am thinking of buying a bagger “Geezer Glide”, either and EVO model and putting in a Power House 114 {over square motor 4” stroke w/ 4.25 bore with a baker 6speed} or getting a new twin cam bagger. What would be better for the long haul, 2up riding and pass most people... Keep in mind my little 96 80" EVO puts out 90/90 and has well over 80k miles on it...
Y'all are say'n that the twin cam is a better motor for big HP and TQ upgrades and I buy most of what your saying but... I am thinking of buying a bagger “Geezer Glide”, either and EVO model and putting in a Power House 114 {over square motor 4” stroke w/ 4.25 bore with a baker 6speed} or getting a new twin cam bagger. What would be better for the long haul, 2up riding and pass most people... Keep in mind my little 96 80" EVO puts out 90/90 and has well over 80k miles on it...
Guess if you can find a 98 back bagger in good condition that would make a fast bagger, but thats alot of bucks even if you did all the work yourself with the cost of the bike, motor and trans and all the little extras to get it updated and road ready, you could buy a brand new 07 classic or street or road glide.
I was with you for the 98 or older, but I was thinking it would be less expensive to go that route. Bike, motor and paint for $12K-$16K? Old bagger, around $5k-$8K and give or take, $7K for a motor an add a 6speed later and a paint job for $2K. Buy a new bike, $20K; make it yours, another $5K-$7K not including taxes, probably thirty grand.... am I crazy... or just lost. HELP!
Rugby, the new one always makes more financial sense, but you can personalize what hasn't already been personalized on a used. Your call. I had a '96 evo, good for most situations. When the twin cams came out, I heard the same from everyone, the 80 had a bit more off the line, the 88 shined above 4K. Makes sense, at lower air pressure the single large valve allows better intake breathing. Once the engine gets underway, the suction created when the 2 little valves open promotes better breathing. The boreXstroke of the 114 you're thinking about, theoretically is a mid-range powerplant. How much load with 2-up and baggage determines the type you want. Oversquare (bore greater than stroke) engines give you better horsepower at mid-to-high revs. An undersquare (stroke greater than bore size) translates to more torque(twisting force at the crank/flywheel) all else being equal. That extra twisting force is what gets you and your's launched. What of the evo's characteristics are you looking to change? My '96's off-the-line was adequate, uphill passing left a bit to be desired. The 80K on your odo testifies to the balance being right, too much power cooks an engine prematurely. Underpowered eggs out the main bearings, throwing a rod is possible and then you're really looking for a new motor.
EVO's are all well and good, but the dealers are stocking mostly TC88 parts and now the new 96stuff. It's going to be harder to get parts for your EVO in the future. There is something to be said about a bike with a warranty.
I've gotten used to the lack of vibration with the twin cam, Wouldnt want to go back to the evo. Time to move on.However some folks still swear by them!!!
How far can you bore a TCam MOCO case and still be safe and reliable? Is 4.25 to far? Will 4.25 bore work with 4.5 stroke? would it be better to stay 4" stroke? So many questions...
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