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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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stator is checked with an ohm meter

with it in place, meter set at RX1 scale you check from either hole to ground, and should see no reading ( so "infinity" ohms). ( if the stator is out of the bike you can probably meter from plug holes to stator mounting screw

now plugging into stator socket you should see .1 to .2 ohms between the 2 poles 9 you can check this in place or out.

IF the stator checks good, and you are using exact same type stator-( which means the old stator matches up with new rotor) you have the choice of;

using old stator-- because sometimes earlier production items are "built" better

using new stator-- and keeping th eold one as a "spare"

Either way good luck.

If seems you are doing this without the manual ( because that has the stator checks in it)- so take your time and ask when not sure.

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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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update on progress compensator nut was removes with no tools, that is how loose it was. rotor had been spinning on crankshaft. groves worn into it where it rubbed on spacer on crank and on outside where it rubbed on splined sleve that is part of the compensator. no splines in the rotor i think there was when it was new. will know when the new parts get here. bike has 61, 400 miles on it at this time. has anyone else seen this happen before?
Read my picture album primary-chain-alignment-tensioner-alternator-rotor-magnets. Same thing. That's the two rotors you see in my post 4 above. Dealer went into it a total of three time and kept tighten the compensator nut for $50. bucks a pop till it wore so far chain started rubbing on one side. So much for their extended warranty. Part man told me they had sold a bunch that year. Mine kept charging with the drive pressure of the comp spring. Surprised it did not damage your crank spline. Bet if you rotate new one you will see back and forth play. If so you need to take care of that since braking and hard acceleration will rock new rotor and soon take out spline again. Read in my album how I fixed mine. May be why dealer did not fix it since he would have had to replace engine or crank in mine. One thing I have not figured out is why Doch4m had to use a puller on the rotor? Also note the drilled balancing done on the rotor in nails rotor and the original without. My original had balancing and the new one from dealer did not.
 

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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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And perhaps for future reference: I lost stators at 19,000, 32,000 and 52,000 miles. The last was almost 2 years ago.

Frustrated to death, I started researching alternatives and this time installed a Compu Fire 3 Phase charging system because I wasn't doing HD parts anymore.

The system is way stronger than stock, rums 13 plus volts at 2000 rpm whether I'm running my heated gear or not, and I'm pushing 40,000 miles on that system thus far.

I'll post if/when I ever have an issue with it. Paid $400 for it through Drag Specialties.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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And perhaps for future reference: I lost stators at 19,000, 32,000 and 52,000 miles. The last was almost 2 years ago.

Frustrated to death, I started researching alternatives and this time installed a Compu Fire 3 Phase charging system because I wasn't doing HD parts anymore.

The system is way stronger than stock, rums 13 plus volts at 2000 rpm whether I'm running my heated gear or not, and I'm pushing 40,000 miles on that system thus far.

I'll post if/when I ever have an issue with it. Paid $400 for it through Drag Specialties.
Little puzzled at this for a number of reasons. If you look at stator it has heavy wires and produces 32-40 volts AC and it runs in oil as a heat sink. I realize using these bike with their limited amperage output to power heating type of applications is pushing the limit of them (had a Ford van with a towing package that had a 160 amp alternator) but you would think the diodes/regulator would go first. Usually when I see a burn stator it come from overloading battery and it shorting out inside usually taking regulator and stator out. Least that's what I thought. Just were where your stators burning up at?
 

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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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I'm not that knowledgable about electricity, but I understand the difference between single phase vs 3 phase. There are 3 wires, one for each phase coming out from the stator and going into the regulator,( which looks remarkably like the regulatore we ran in the 90's before these big plastic things came out in '98.)

There's a fuse on the heavier duty wire running back to the battery which is protected by a 45 amp fuse.

So I guess all the magic happens in the regulator, taking 3 phases of AC power and converting them into 45 amps of DC. And as I said, remarkably strong system, ( much smaller rotor than the OEM too.)
 
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I'm not that knowledgable about electricity, but I understand the difference between single phase vs 3 phase. There are 3 wires, one for each phase coming out from the stator and going into the regulator,( which looks remarkably like the regulatore we ran in the 90's before these big plastic things came out in '98.)

There's a fuse on the heavier duty wire running back to the battery which is protected by a 45 amp fuse.

So I guess all the magic happens in the regulator, taking 3 phases of AC power and converting them into 45 amps of DC. And as I said, remarkably strong system, ( much smaller rotor than the OEM too.)
Maybe better said there are three 32-40 AC lines going thru diodes in regulator that only allow one way flow making the 13.5 -14.9 or so DC. Amperage determined by wire size and amount. When you took the stators out were they burn up black? When you look at mine the dark area is epoxy sealer were the plug attachments are made. The circuit breaker is the fuse protection. The regulator is the disconnect between stator when system is off.
 

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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
stator is checked with an ohm meter

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If seems you are doing this without the manual ( because that has the stator checks in it)- so take your time and ask when not sure.

mike
i could not find how to check the stator in my service manual, only how to remove it and install it. but i did check it with an multimeter with info i found on this site. according to what i found here a 45 amp system should read 0.1-0.2 ohms. when i tested this it read 0.5 ohms. my service manual gives me a part number for a electrical manual. the tests i did showed it was not putting out enough volts to charge the battery. so i thought the stator was bad. when i got it apart i found the splines stripped ou of the rotor,so that explained why it was not charging. i put the new stator in with the new rotor it is all back together now and is charging now.
 

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