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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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I bled my ABS 2009 Ultra Classic, and got air in the system. I then took it to the dealer and they fixed it. I stayed in the Holiday Inn Express until they finished.

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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by HandleBarLouie
Well, I just finished my 4th ABS bar install and once again I did not need to have the digital tech connected to the bike and re-bled at the dealership. Each bike has been taken to my local dealer that Ive been doing business for years and inspected by their techs and service manager and given the thumbs up. I have lunch once a week with other local Shop owners such as myself and they too have had similar results. Im not posting this to start a war with some dealership know it all, its purely for informational purposes, so post accordingly please. I dont care what the service manual claims, Ive been finding contradictory information in HD sevice manuals as long as they have been in print.
I had a similar experience recently when I had the rear brake light switch replaced. I talked with the service manager and he insisted they has to use the Digital Technician. After the switch was installed the service tech told me I could have installed the brake light switch myself.

The only consdieration was that if the brakes failed I had rather it be on them. It would only have to happen once.
 

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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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I have done two bar jobs in recent months on my bikes with ABS, and have first hand experience with both success and failure. On my first attempt, I bought a LA Chopper cable kit and apes, and to my dismay introduced air into the system as I tried bleeding them with out a vacuum style bleeder. The brakes still worked fine, but the ABS light would not go out and they were spongy at times. I took it in to the dealer, and they rebled and reset the system and all was 100% in less than 30 minutes. It is a fallacy that the brakes will not work, it is only that ABS will not work. After sending that bike over seas to a relative, I got a 2012 FLTR and immediately installed new bars and cables. This time however, I purchased a Vacuum bleeder and succeeded in bleeding my lines and completing without the assistance of a dealership. It annoys me how Dealers posture things to the consumer to create a feeling of fear and helplessness. They instill doubt and leave us questioning our ability to alter our own motorcycles. I applaud folks like Handlebarlouie who are willing to sift through the nonsense and give us back our confidence. Pessimism is a plague for the weak. Ride safe.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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well said, +1!!
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Hey Louie thanks for the info. Going to tackle a handlebar swap myself. I'm no wrench but I like working on my own stuff. I have ABS and if I can get them bled then so be it, if not I will take it to the dealer. It's B.S. to get bashed for giving your personal experience on an install. I've never done a bar swap, or bled the brakes. I'm smart enough to realize that if my brakes feel spongy, or my ABS light stays on after the install then I probably didn't do right and I should take it to a dealer. I'm sure as hell not going to ride it around like an idiot thinking that everything is fine because YOU didn't have problems on YOUR installs.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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I just FEDEX my ABS module to my dealer, they hook it up to the DT and send it back.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowcountry Joe
Well I guess you are just an ABS kind of bar install god. Go pat yourself on the back.
Wow.
I have been reading this forum for quite a while and I have got a lot of useful info and I have never seen such bitter responses as this and 05 night train.
If you don't agree thats fine but save the nasty responses for the other 14 year olds on the bmx sites.
I will decide what I think is right and wrong without the childish comebacks thanks.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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I used a syringe to force fluid up through the upper line, then vacuum bled the brakes after swapping my upper ABS line for apes. I then took the bike out and attempted to get the ABS to activate, when it finally did it definitely released air trapped in the solenoid block. the level dropped some, and I rebled again. Now it doesn't feel any different than when I first bought the bike.

The best way to do it was to take it to the dealer and hook it up to the tool. I don't think anyone is going to argue that.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sweatervest
..It annoys me how Dealers posture things to the consumer to create a feeling of fear and helplessness. They instill doubt and leave us questioning our ability to alter our own motorcycles. I applaud folks like Handlebarlouie who are willing to sift through the nonsense and give us back our confidence. Pessimism is a plague for the weak. Ride safe.
The dealers aren't the ones making you feel "fear and helplessness" in this case, it's the manufacturer and the service manual. But your rhetoric does make you sound really important and knowledgeable.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Hey Louie! I just installed my 2nd set of apes today on my 05eg. Think i should take it down to the local stealer to have it inspected? I rode it about 60 miles this afternoon and nothing fell off so does that mean i should be ok?
 
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