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I have been reading these posts off and on for a few years now and have not made the step to installing a True-Track on my 06 RKC, but have experienced some of the "wobble" that is being talked about. My question is, how difficult is it to install?
Is it a design flaw? I don't think you can really say that. HD Touring bikes are not sport bikes and should not be expected to handle like one. All designs have compromises built-in that will improve one characteristic or another while sacrificing a little with some other characteristic.
We don't have to look very far to see that it IS a design flaw. Other Harleys have the equivilent of the True-Track stabilizer built in them by the factory, as I mentioned earlier. So they know what to do if they put their minds to it. H-D simply chooses not to include a rear stabilizer on the touring bikes, a compromise too far for some of us!
Looks like it just bolts right up to me. Might be some adjustment to that stabilizer arm. Anyone......?
As you say, bolt on. If your bike's alignment is OK simply tighten up the adjusters so they are neutral, ie don't pull either way. I think you will find installation instructions on their website, under 'How To'.
My 2011 Limited gets the wobbles on long high speed sweepers (75+ mph). Especially if you hit a bump or dip in the road while going through the turn.
If you're a 55 or 60 mph rider, you'll probably never feel it on the new frames, and if you do it's not going to be that bad at those speeds.
This is my experience anyways.
Sorry probably should have mentioned 01 EGC, 70 - 75 on sweeper interchanges. 50 + on the mountain roads. Thanks for the answers guys. Guess I don't need to worry about it, but then who knows huh?
We don't have to look very far to see that it IS a design flaw. Other Harleys have the equivilent of the True-Track stabilizer built in them by the factory, as I mentioned earlier. So they know what to do if they put their minds to it. H-D simply chooses not to include a rear stabilizer on the touring bikes, a compromise too far for some of us!
Respectfully how in the world can you positively make that statement. You can make the statement "in your opinion"
In my opinion relative to the 09 and above it is not needed. The stock bike functions properly. It even functions better with proper throttle and brake control.
And I will go on to say on my 07 street glide, I did not experience the wobble issues.
Now just an objective question how can you make such a concrete determination if you do not own a 09 and above bike.
My beef, I think is grossly wrong for manufacturers tp pull this scrare factor in pimping their products. "Death wobble"
...Is it a design flaw? I don't think you can really say that. HD Touring bikes are not sport bikes and should not be expected to handle like one. All designs have compromises built-in that will improve one characteristic or another while sacrificing a little with some other characteristic...
Originally Posted by grbrown
We don't have to look very far to see that it IS a design flaw. Other Harleys have the equivilent of the True-Track stabilizer built in them by the factory, as I mentioned earlier. So they know what to do if they put their minds to it. H-D simply chooses not to include a rear stabilizer on the touring bikes, a compromise too far for some of us!
I think you're taking a few sentences from my post (#29) out of context. I also made many references to the current design not being the best for handling characteristics.
As far as "a compromise too far for some of us!" goes, I also said the same thing in my post. Different words, but the same intent.
All designs have some compromises built-in that will not please everyone, but that does not necessarily make them a design flaw.
As for the wobble we're talking about, I don't like it either. But for everyone of us like you and me in that respect, there are hundreds who could care less.
Last edited by 2black1s; Oct 20, 2011 at 03:58 PM.
all I know is on my 2011 above 70 -75 it felt like my rear tire was going flat , no a scary wobble but more than I liked , I installed the True-Trak and it was gone
I have been reading these posts off and on for a few years now and have not made the step to installing a True-Track on my 06 RKC, but have experienced some of the "wobble" that is being talked about. My question is, how difficult is it to install?
Very simple and so easy even I could do it! Seriously it's very very easy, your beer won't even get warm before you're done. Have blue loc-tite on hand and it shouldn't take 15 minutes.
twoblack1s - In the west and south west usually 75 to 80 to keep up with my son's.
I have ridden many bikes over the years. In the earlier years some were pathetic at speed and cornering. I'm very sensitive to inputs from my rides.
Again fully loaded on tour and at speeds Neither the Ultra or Road Glide have done anything but exceptionally stable high speed sweepers or on switch backs. They track like on rails. Add cross winds and the RG stills handles as good as any. It is a match for my XR1200 which is saying a lot.
My son's M109 with the 240 rear tire will oscillate like a figure 8 on high speed curves.
The 09 up have rubber isolators but just like the original 69 Nortons the movement is restricted to fore and aft and not side to side. Previous to 09 frame the problem was caused by loading with two up and overloaded bags beyond the gross rating for the bikes. The cure was increase load capacity,better alignment and better tracking tires. But any bike can still be over loaded and have issues at speed. The problem lies with the operator.
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