Cam for 2012 103 engine
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They're both basically the same bike, so why would one be preferred over another in these applications?
Here's my 3˘, as predicted. I have not dyno-tuned my bike and thus haven't viewed any charts on my setup, but I have tuned with the PCV-AT and now with the PV and sense no dips or any hint of tuning issues with this setup (96/255). I am also having no heat issues, and the opposite is the case here. Even in our 95°+ S. LA summers I rarely see front head temps high enough to trigger EITMS (290° on this bike if I had it, which I don't), and it stays at 225-235° at slow highway speeds. In summer, oil temps never exceed 205° as long as I'm moving, and above 220° is rare even in summer traffic. The highest I've seen in 2˝ years is 240° in a major traffic snafu this past summer, and has only exceeded 230° several times since installing the cams, no higher than with the stock cams. Even with an oil cooler these numbers are abnormally low based on feedback from others, even those with other cams installed. A friend with a 103/255 combo runs generally hotter than mine, but he reports that his oil temp did not exceed 230° this past summer. I don't think heat is a common complaint with these cams, and I don't recall hearing of any except in your case.
Again, I appreciate your experience and that you've chosen to relate them to us in a forthright and honest way without denigrating the cams as generally unworthy for anyone. I don't think the trouble you had is typical, at least based on the feedback I've seen, and it certainly isn't in my own personal experience.
Here's my 3˘, as predicted. I have not dyno-tuned my bike and thus haven't viewed any charts on my setup, but I have tuned with the PCV-AT and now with the PV and sense no dips or any hint of tuning issues with this setup (96/255). I am also having no heat issues, and the opposite is the case here. Even in our 95°+ S. LA summers I rarely see front head temps high enough to trigger EITMS (290° on this bike if I had it, which I don't), and it stays at 225-235° at slow highway speeds. In summer, oil temps never exceed 205° as long as I'm moving, and above 220° is rare even in summer traffic. The highest I've seen in 2˝ years is 240° in a major traffic snafu this past summer, and has only exceeded 230° several times since installing the cams, no higher than with the stock cams. Even with an oil cooler these numbers are abnormally low based on feedback from others, even those with other cams installed. A friend with a 103/255 combo runs generally hotter than mine, but he reports that his oil temp did not exceed 230° this past summer. I don't think heat is a common complaint with these cams, and I don't recall hearing of any except in your case.
Again, I appreciate your experience and that you've chosen to relate them to us in a forthright and honest way without denigrating the cams as generally unworthy for anyone. I don't think the trouble you had is typical, at least based on the feedback I've seen, and it certainly isn't in my own personal experience.
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They're both basically the same bike, so why would one be preferred over another in these applications?
A freind with a 103/255 combo runs generally hotter than mine, but he reports that his oil temp did not exceed 230° this past summer. I don't think heat is a common complaint with these cams, and I don't recall hearing of any except in your case.
Again, I appreciate your experience and that you've chosen to relate them to us in a forthright and honest way without denigrating the cams as generally unworthy for anyone. I don't think the trouble you had is typical, at least based on the feedback I've seen, and it certainly isn't in my own personal experience.
A freind with a 103/255 combo runs generally hotter than mine, but he reports that his oil temp did not exceed 230° this past summer. I don't think heat is a common complaint with these cams, and I don't recall hearing of any except in your case.
Again, I appreciate your experience and that you've chosen to relate them to us in a forthright and honest way without denigrating the cams as generally unworthy for anyone. I don't think the trouble you had is typical, at least based on the feedback I've seen, and it certainly isn't in my own personal experience.
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around here dealers have told me that the extended warranty people have come out and denied claim work for even a set of mufflers or air filter .....guess they are tired of paying out.
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here you go check this out
se-255 cam Kit
the ultimate in torque cams, this cam offers substantial
increase in low-end torque for engines up to 110 cubic
inches with compression ratios up to 10 to 1. the lowend
torque increases are great for heavy bikes or for the
person who routinely shifts below 4500 rPM and wants
the power available to pass without downshifting. the
cam still makes peak power above 5000 rPM so people
with lighter bikes will enjoy the torque increases without
feeling like the bike runs out of air at higher engines
speeds. these cams are used in the 07-later street-legal
103 Stage II Kits and the 110 Stage I Kits. Compression
releases may be required depending on displacement
and compression ratio.
$299.95
se-254e cam Kit
this cam provides great low-end torque along with
good midrange. A good all-around cam, the Se-254e
is a good match for a Dyna, Softail or light touring bike
- road KingŽ, Street GlideŽ or road GlideŽ Custom -
when the aggressive rider desires a little more top-end
horsepower. In a 0-60 sprint or 1/4 mile drag race, the
Se-254e-equipped model would pull ahead of an identical
model with a Se-255 cam.
$299.95
se-255 cam Kit
the ultimate in torque cams, this cam offers substantial
increase in low-end torque for engines up to 110 cubic
inches with compression ratios up to 10 to 1. the lowend
torque increases are great for heavy bikes or for the
person who routinely shifts below 4500 rPM and wants
the power available to pass without downshifting. the
cam still makes peak power above 5000 rPM so people
with lighter bikes will enjoy the torque increases without
feeling like the bike runs out of air at higher engines
speeds. these cams are used in the 07-later street-legal
103 Stage II Kits and the 110 Stage I Kits. Compression
releases may be required depending on displacement
and compression ratio.
$299.95
se-254e cam Kit
this cam provides great low-end torque along with
good midrange. A good all-around cam, the Se-254e
is a good match for a Dyna, Softail or light touring bike
- road KingŽ, Street GlideŽ or road GlideŽ Custom -
when the aggressive rider desires a little more top-end
horsepower. In a 0-60 sprint or 1/4 mile drag race, the
Se-254e-equipped model would pull ahead of an identical
model with a Se-255 cam.
$299.95
Cruiser
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I put 255s in my 2011 Limmited 103, with Jackpot slipons, AC and a TTS canned tune. Can't say enough about how much I like the way they perform. Also saw a dyno overlay comparing the 255s and 48h. The two cams were right together to start but the 48h added a few Hp up top, as it should being an after market cam. So my take on your deal is based on the trailer and two up. You will appreciate the off idle torque to make it easy taking off in first. Either cam is good, I bought the 255s used cheap. You may want to spend the $$ for new and then the 48h looks good to me. I would strongly consider a 31 tooth sprocket, or 30 if you don't mind the cost of the belt. Put that together with the tuner, cam and ac, and you should be very happy. Figure a 3 percent increase in torque at the rear wheel for the 31 tooth, six percent for the 30 tooth. With the 30 tooth it should be very easy to take off in first, especially on hills.
Intermediate
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Why would you recommend a different cam for the Roadglide compared to the Streetglide. They're virtually the same weight?
Road Master
Joined: Apr 2011
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From: Colorado Springs
The Andrews 26's might be perfect for you. Another one that has my attention that I have not used or ridden yet are the Tman 555 Torqster cams. He recommends them for trikes so Id imagine they'd work well for you with the trailer and the extra weight. HD is going to recommend the 255's but my personal experience with them was not that great but I think a lot of guys like those pretty well. You might also consider running a smaller pulley on the front. Your stock one has 32 teeth. If you drop to a 31 you can usually stay with the stock belt. A 30 tooth will make quite a bit of difference but you'll have to do a belt change also with it.
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It was a joke. These cam threads tend to repeat themselves over and over and over, and some guys tend to take themselves way to seriously. A little humor is appreciated.
Btw, the thread is over a month old, chances are the OP has made his choice and moved on.
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