se255 cam specs
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From: bklyn,ny
And that my friends is the best statement yet. Nobody has the resources/time/money to r&d camshafts like the factory. You want more power, sure there are better alternatives.
But you will be giving up longevity, and quietness.
Hell if I wanted to go fast on 2 wheels, I wouldn't be riding a Harley...........LOL
No need to comment on the OP question, as it has been answered very well
But you will be giving up longevity, and quietness.
Hell if I wanted to go fast on 2 wheels, I wouldn't be riding a Harley...........LOL
No need to comment on the OP question, as it has been answered very well
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From: Linden New Jersey
Its just economics's (think warranty work) plus they have deeper pockets
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I don't think so.
For example on a personal note, I have problems with my left eye. And my Retinal Specialist is way more educated, ( because he's specialized,) in retinal issues that my General Opthamologist, even though both are full MD's. One concentrates on just one component, the other doesn't have the time or resources, because he worries about the whole eyeball.
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So an OEM that has to be responsible for the design of the entire motorcycle, ( on a Corporate dictated budget no less,) is going to spend more time on the camshafts than a Company whose sole purpose in life is to design, test and manufacture just cams?
I don't think so.
For example on a personal note, I have problems with my left eye. And my Retinal Specialist is way more educated, ( because he's specialized,) in retinal issues that my General Opthamologist, even though both are full MD's. One concentrates on just one component, the other doesn't have the time or resources, because he worries about the whole eyeball.
I don't think so.
For example on a personal note, I have problems with my left eye. And my Retinal Specialist is way more educated, ( because he's specialized,) in retinal issues that my General Opthamologist, even though both are full MD's. One concentrates on just one component, the other doesn't have the time or resources, because he worries about the whole eyeball.
But we are comparing two different things. Aftermarket performance manufacturers (pick any part you like) just don't have the resources to test like the factory does.
Back in the late 80's I worked for Exxon in their test facilities in Linden NJ. They would run cars on chassis dynos 24/7 for months at a time to check their oil additives for excessive wear in motors and their fuel additives for carbon build up. The Big 3 had a presence on-site, in addition to their own in-house testing.
What Iam trying to say is aftermarket manufacturers can only dream of the resources the OEM manufacturers have
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Why
For my ride style, the TW 222 get up on torque Sooner and the torque curve is taller ft/# then the SE, the TW cam torque carries further with better numbers and makes more hp over the range of the curve.
All in all, I feel that the TW222 offers a better performance curve for a bagger and I felt it right away after the cam swap on my bike.
Run what you want, but if someone snuck a TW 222 in on your bike I bet that your grin factor would be significant and you would not want the 255 cam back.
Why use a 6 shooter when you can have 1 in the chamber and 14 in the clip?
Cheers,
Mark
Check out Woods cam page and dyno sheets for the TW 222 or Fuelmoto
http://fuelmotousa.com/dynocharts/Ramiriez222.jpg
Dyno sheets
All in all, I feel that the TW222 offers a better performance curve for a bagger and I felt it right away after the cam swap on my bike.
Run what you want, but if someone snuck a TW 222 in on your bike I bet that your grin factor would be significant and you would not want the 255 cam back.
Why use a 6 shooter when you can have 1 in the chamber and 14 in the clip?
Cheers,
Mark
Check out Woods cam page and dyno sheets for the TW 222 or Fuelmoto
http://fuelmotousa.com/dynocharts/Ramiriez222.jpg
Dyno sheets
Last edited by mgmmgm; Nov 18, 2012 at 01:28 PM. Reason: Dyno sheet tw222
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Mark,
Thanks for sharing.
The 255 is just a damn good cam...that when a guy says another cam is even better, guys are going to ask how? It's not an insult, but just a curious response.
I, for one, appreciate your response, and will look into this.
My SE255 are so damn good.....if one is even better, then sharing it with us is a damn good thing to do, on your part....so I thank you.
The guy buying a new scooter needs to know what to go with. I recommend a SE255....if there are options that will also get them where they need to go, then all is good, IMHO.
I just want guys to be as happy as I am with my bagger
~Joe
Thanks for sharing.
The 255 is just a damn good cam...that when a guy says another cam is even better, guys are going to ask how? It's not an insult, but just a curious response.
I, for one, appreciate your response, and will look into this.
My SE255 are so damn good.....if one is even better, then sharing it with us is a damn good thing to do, on your part....so I thank you.
The guy buying a new scooter needs to know what to go with. I recommend a SE255....if there are options that will also get them where they need to go, then all is good, IMHO.
I just want guys to be as happy as I am with my bagger
~Joe
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From: East Alton, IL
Thanks, that is way more helpful than "The TW 222 cam, that's the cam that you need in place of the SE 255."