Another cam thread
The 255's will give high torque at the low end of the power band. Too low in my opinion. They also have too high cold cranking pressure and retain heat, also IMHO. The 555/777 move the curve a little too far to the right for a bagger as far as I'm concerned.
Better choices for me would be Woods 5-6, 6-6, or Screamin' Eagle 204's. Better low end torque than stock, and lots of power through the mid range and even venturing into the high range. But not performing as well as the 555/777 (and others) above 5K. I'd put the performance of the SE254e somewhere around that of the Woods 555.
All of this is my opinion. Frankly, with cams, no one can offer anything other than opinion. There is no definitive cam choice that works for all people, in all bikes, on all occasions. There is a ton of info on this and other forums. Take the next couple of weeks, search and read. And then, search and read some more.
Don't buy cams until you can answer your questions for yourself.
Last edited by ocezam; Dec 23, 2011 at 01:39 PM.
Thanks all for the advice. My options are limited in the fact that I am using my Chrome Cash, which means that I have to spend it at a dealership. They can order the TLs for me, but I highly doubt they will order the FuelMoto cams for me so I am likely stuck with the SE cams. I'm sure I will be pleased and the responses seem to indicate that the 255s are the way to go with my riding style and big ole fat bike. I like the idea of the dyno tune and may end up there, but for now I can dial in my PCV for free. I'm sure my next purchase after all of this will be a custom dyno tune.
I'm with you. I personally don't care for the 103/255 combination. My preference is for a cam that hits reasonably hard right off idle, but doesn't go all in too early, so there's bigger gains through the mid range. I went with 204s.
Ask 10 guys, get 5 responses. There is a big contingent that likes the 255s, and can't understand why anyone would choose anything else. The rest of us are split among several of the other choices.
Ask 10 guys, get 5 responses. There is a big contingent that likes the 255s, and can't understand why anyone would choose anything else. The rest of us are split among several of the other choices.
Thanks all for the advice. My options are limited in the fact that I am using my Chrome Cash, which means that I have to spend it at a dealership. They can order the TLs for me, but I highly doubt they will order the FuelMoto cams for me so I am likely stuck with the SE cams. I'm sure I will be pleased and the responses seem to indicate that the 255s are the way to go with my riding style and big ole fat bike. I like the idea of the dyno tune and may end up there, but for now I can dial in my PCV for free. I'm sure my next purchase after all of this will be a custom dyno tune.
Again it is where you want your powerband to be. For me the 204's are nearly perfect. The 254e will move the power band slightly right and the 203's will move it slightly left from the 204's and either would be acceptable for me. The 255's will move the power band the farthest to the left. Again, too far left for me.
Good luck!
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Last edited by ocezam; Dec 23, 2011 at 01:46 PM.
Actually, recommending 255's or 555/777 is ridiculous because they are vastly different cams. Saying "pick one you probably won't go wrong" is only true from the standpoint that the stock cams suck, and either the 255's or 555/777 will give better performance. OK, true enough. However, the performance difference between a SE255 and Woods 777 is huge. I guarantee that every person having a chance to ride each of these cams would prefer one over the other by a huge margin. Which one YOU would prefer, no one can predict.
The 255's will give extremely low torque. Too low in my opinion. They also have too high cold cranking pressure and retain heat, also IMHO. The 555/777 move the curve a little too far to the right for a bagger as far as I'm concerned.
Better choices for me would be Woods 6-6 or Screamin' Eagle 204's.
All of this is my opinion. Frankly, with cams, no one can offer anything other than opinion. There is no definitive cam choice that works for all people, in all bikes, on all occasions. There is a ton of info on this and other forums. Take the next couple of weeks, search and read. And then, search and read some more.
Don't buy cams until you can answer your questions for yourself.
The 255's will give extremely low torque. Too low in my opinion. They also have too high cold cranking pressure and retain heat, also IMHO. The 555/777 move the curve a little too far to the right for a bagger as far as I'm concerned.
Better choices for me would be Woods 6-6 or Screamin' Eagle 204's.
All of this is my opinion. Frankly, with cams, no one can offer anything other than opinion. There is no definitive cam choice that works for all people, in all bikes, on all occasions. There is a ton of info on this and other forums. Take the next couple of weeks, search and read. And then, search and read some more.
Don't buy cams until you can answer your questions for yourself.
Lighten' up Francis..
If you read enough of these weekly cam threads, you will see the recommendations from the herd will mostly be, Woods 555/777 and SE 255's.
It's always the same answers... trust me..
Had you noticed, my cams are Fueling Reaper 525's.
They come on @2000 and go out until 5800, w/no weak spots or fall off points.
I've said that more times than I can count too.
Merry Christmas..
I'm with you. I personally don't care for the 103/255 combination. My preference is for a cam that hits reasonably hard right off idle, but doesn't go all in too early, so there's bigger gains through the mid range. I went with 204s.
Ask 10 guys, get 5 responses. There is a big contingent that likes the 255s, and can't understand why anyone would choose anything else. The rest of us are split among several of the other choices.
Ask 10 guys, get 5 responses. There is a big contingent that likes the 255s, and can't understand why anyone would choose anything else. The rest of us are split among several of the other choices.
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Actually, don't be so **** and get over your serious self..
Lighten' up Francis..
If you read enough of these weekly cam threads, you will see the recommendations from the herd will mostly be, Woods 555/777 and SE 255's.
It's always the same answers... trust me..
Had you noticed, my cams are Fueling Reaper 525's.
They come on @2000 and go out until 5800, w/no weak spots or fall off points.
I've said that more times than I can count too.
Merry Christmas..
Lighten' up Francis..
If you read enough of these weekly cam threads, you will see the recommendations from the herd will mostly be, Woods 555/777 and SE 255's.
It's always the same answers... trust me..
Had you noticed, my cams are Fueling Reaper 525's.
They come on @2000 and go out until 5800, w/no weak spots or fall off points.
I've said that more times than I can count too.
Merry Christmas..
I think stating that you can't go wrong with either is, at best, weak advice.
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Almost anything other than stock will give you an actual power band. After that, it just depends on how you like to ride. I rarely go over 5000 so if it's rolling off by then I don't mind the 255's. Maybe 30 years ago I would have wanted the curve further to the right.
Good luck and ride safe.
I have done a ton of research for my 06, 88" rkc. I am going with a 95" - 204 build with a sert and 4 hours of dyno.
The more I research the more I like the 204s. I also am having a dealer do the build and the 204 was very close to the Andrews 21 which was my other choice.
The more I research the more I like the 204s. I also am having a dealer do the build and the 204 was very close to the Andrews 21 which was my other choice.






