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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ocezam
I can, and do, ride all the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and I'm never more than 4 hours from home.



Riding in the Rockies, I've been on a few "twisty mountainous roads" and I'm concerned with all aspects of my bikes performance. Heck in less than 45 minutes I can be at the summit of Pikes Peak. You may have heard of it. It's over 14000 feet in elevation and there is a famous race up it's "twisty" road.




Hilarious!

I've just been informed there are not only poser bikers lurking, but apparently poser touring types also. When, oh when, can I become a "pure touring type"? After another 40 years on bikes, will I then qualify? Another 25 on Harleys? Perhaps I need to purchase a 'Wing?

Please....

I really wanted this to be about cams. Oh well.

Well smart ***, just so you know, I live very close to the BRP and right about the middle, I can be at either end of it in four hours riding I81, so there's nowhere on the BRP that I can't drop off of it, hit 81 and be home in four hours.

Yeah, I've heard of Pikes Peak, I rode to the top in August, rode to the top of Mt. Evens the next day, it was even higher. Dought you can do all the Rockies and still be just four hours from Colorado Springs, we went across Independence Gap almost all the the way to Glenwood Springs, tuned south and followed the Rockies on 133 and 92 and hit 50 back into Colorado Springs. Took us around 8 hours and I don't think we even scratched the Rockies.

Having rode to the top of Pikes Peak, I can tell you that we have mountain roads that are just as steep or steeper and a lot curvier, just not as tall. Spend all day on them and it doesn't matter whether you just climbed 7000 feet up Pikes Peak or climbed the same vertical distance on three of our mountains, the bike has to work just as hard.

As to how I ride, yes, some of us are purely interested in touring. I'm 63 years old, figure I only have around another ten years before I won't be able to handle a 900 pound bike with two people on it loaded to the hilt. The last five years I've worked a job that demanded seven days a week, ten hours a day. The only good thing about it was I got four to five twelve day vacations a year, my wife and I spent that time on the road, touring. During the last five years we have been 32 different states, about half of them several times, and twice to Canada, averaging twenty to twenty five thousand a year. Where have you been?

Considering that over 95% of our riding is spent going somewhere to see the sights in this beautiful country, I'd say that's as close as you will get to a pure touring rider. When I get old enough that I can't handle my Ultra and Wing, the bikes will go and I'll take up some other interest.

BTW, most of my comments did pertain to cams, they were about why I thought the SE255s were good cams for someone that road two up 99% of the time and a great deal of that time on steep twisty mountaing roads.
 

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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tn.Heritage
I comparred the dyno's from the 255's to the 204's and 204's are as good down low and better mid and up top as well. I don't think you will be disappointed at all with the 204 cams.
Comparing 204's and 255's in the same bike with Stage 1 TC96, charted on the same day and blessed with an optimal tune, the 255's should produce more TQ below 3k RPM.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Just finished adding S&S 551CE cams and v&h power duals. Got to take it out for a short ride today. The difference is incredible. I was looking for a real launch from the start and the 551s delivered as promised. Pulls real hard to 4500 has a nice lope at idle and the v&h's added a nice bite to my SE slip ons. As I just finished I still have to send it to the dyno but a great start. Come on springtime.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepster09
I went with Kuryakyn cams and loved the power.My bike was mostly used solo and occaisional rider. I also went with gear drive.

http://www.kuryakyn.com/Products/1601/Cams-for-Twin-Cam

Vroom vroom....26G Kuryakyn cams, ported heads, primary gear change...catch me if you can!

 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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I have to chuckle lol, one simple question from a guy and 115 posts later I wonder If the OP is tryna keep up with all this. It's so cool that so much info is shared here and at times a bit mind boggling but none-the-less its learning experience. Back to the HD mech. today with more questions...and wouldn't ya know...wrote them all down and left the paper home. It all worked out anyway as I did pretty good at remembering it all. We discussed my exhaust and its part in the "plan" and although I haven't pulled the trigger just yet, both barrels are aimed at the 103/SE 204 - Perfect Fit PR's - upgrade lifters if needed - Manual CR's - Mastertune TTS.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by atrain68
To the OP. The best advice is do some research and follow these simple rules:

Select a cam that matches your riding style and engine components.
Just because someone says their cam is the greatest cam ever, it doesn't make it so.
Do some homework on how cams work - this tech article is a good start.
http://www.nrhsperformance.com/tech_camshafts.shtml

Hope that helps. Thank you drive through.
And if you are going to change them yourself, read "atrain's" write up! 255s in my 08 and happy, but also changed the rear sprocket and and have plans and part (31 tooth) to change the front sprocket as well.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SunCruise
I have to chuckle lol, one simple question from a guy and 115 posts later I wonder If the OP is tryna keep up with all this. It's so cool that so much info is shared here and at times a bit mind boggling but none-the-less its learning experience. Back to the HD mech. today with more questions...and wouldn't ya know...wrote them all down and left the paper home. It all worked out anyway as I did pretty good at remembering it all. We discussed my exhaust and its part in the "plan" and although I haven't pulled the trigger just yet, both barrels are aimed at the 103/SE 204 - Perfect Fit PR's - upgrade lifters if needed - Manual CR's - Mastertune TTS.
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Cams are like religion and politics. There are many opinions, but well worth the time and debate.

Suncruise, I am sure you will be happy with your build, still I encourage you to look at a 107. If you must stick with MOCO products then consider saving up for the 110 or 120R. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but I think there are better opportunities. See what I mean? Religion and Politics!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Lot's of other cams (Woods 555, 777, SE 204) exceed the SE 255 from 2700-2800 rpms and up. When I roll on the throttle, generally by the time it's at full, I'm exceeding 2700 rpms. If you ride in a narrow rpm range (1700-2700 rpms), the slight bump you get with the 255's in that typically transitional rev range compared with other cams may very well appeal to you. In normal riding, even with my very slight torque loss to the 255, I'm not anywhere near full throttle even in those low rpm ranges with the bike accelerating smartly. When I really want to get on it, it runs freely to redline pulling all the way.
 
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