Would you holdout for ABS
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Road Warrior
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From: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
This thread has good points on both sides of the equation. If you are willing to pay for it, and I was, ABS in my view is better to have than not to have. The OP's statement that he daily commutes in N. FL where it tends to have pop-up rain storms and would feel better with ABS makes sense to me. I agree that ABS is not the answer for not paying attention or overriding the road conditions at hand.
Road Warrior
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From: Keene, CA
I started riding before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, and I'm done buying 900 pound motorcycles without ABS, EFI, or electric starters. I'll ride nearly anything, but if I'm buying - I'm buying with ABS.
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From: SE Michigan
Cops are among the best trained and best riders, and they insist on ABS.
Interesting comparison of ABS stopping on sand in the L.A. 2011 police bike evaluation.
Check out page 33. Road King did reasonably well comparatively.
http://www.lasdhq.org/sites/motorcycle-test/2011.pdf
Interesting comparison of ABS stopping on sand in the L.A. 2011 police bike evaluation.
Check out page 33. Road King did reasonably well comparatively.
http://www.lasdhq.org/sites/motorcycle-test/2011.pdf
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From: Springfield Mo
And did the other 5 in the pen, blah, blah, blah....
I started riding before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, and I'm done buying 900 pound motorcycles without ABS, EFI, or electric starters. I'll ride nearly anything, but if I'm buying - I'm buying with ABS.
I started riding before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, and I'm done buying 900 pound motorcycles without ABS, EFI, or electric starters. I'll ride nearly anything, but if I'm buying - I'm buying with ABS.
Road Master
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From: ENGLAND
looks like the insults have started ....... lol
the guy only asked if he should Waite for ABS ....... now he is ,
so be nice ......
we have worked out
ABS for riders who can't ride .....
and
no ABS for riders who are imortal ......simple....
the guy only asked if he should Waite for ABS ....... now he is ,
so be nice ......
we have worked out
ABS for riders who can't ride .....
and
no ABS for riders who are imortal ......simple....
Great thread....lots of passion about this subject. Dynamohm, glad you have come to a conclusion as to what is best for you. I hope that this healthy debate has proven useful to you in making your decision. I want to thank ALL responders to this thread for their insights. Healthy debate is colorful when done by passionate participants and I believe that this thread qualifies. It has helped me learn more about ABS and my mind is open on the subject. I especially liked the post about ABS on the front being great and the rear useless. That makes sense to me somehow because the "pulsing" sensation that my experiences with ABS have left me not caring for the feeling. Perhaps advances have been made to the technology to lessen or eliminate this trait. I would like to know if those that have it and like it,do you ever feel this sense of grab and let go and grab and let go over and over or it is more seamless? Thanks again to all and especially the OP for bringing it up to begin with. Ride safe and ride free.
Road Master
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From: pittsburgh, pa
I've had it in a couple of cars and trucks and I don't like it.
It seems to me the only times it ever has activated it has increased the length required to stop. The only benefit I have experienced is it helps you stop in a fairly straight line.
I agree completey with stogieluvr regarding todays drivers being undertrained, underskilled and over confident. And somehow I just can't accept that to make them better drivers or riders they should be given saftey features that compensate for their lack of attention or skill.
Christ every time I'm on the highway during a winter storm it's always the 4wd's and SUV's that are lying on their roofs in the ditch because many of todays drivers believe the added traction 4wd offers somehow suspends the laws of physics... so you can't tell me ABS doesn't give the motorcylist who just got his/her license without any training or real life experience a false sense of his/her ability and security.
Again, just my .02 cents and I only respond as I am responded to.
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It seems to me the only times it ever has activated it has increased the length required to stop. The only benefit I have experienced is it helps you stop in a fairly straight line.
I agree completey with stogieluvr regarding todays drivers being undertrained, underskilled and over confident. And somehow I just can't accept that to make them better drivers or riders they should be given saftey features that compensate for their lack of attention or skill.
Christ every time I'm on the highway during a winter storm it's always the 4wd's and SUV's that are lying on their roofs in the ditch because many of todays drivers believe the added traction 4wd offers somehow suspends the laws of physics... so you can't tell me ABS doesn't give the motorcylist who just got his/her license without any training or real life experience a false sense of his/her ability and security.
Again, just my .02 cents and I only respond as I am responded to.
)This thread prompted some spirited discussion about the virtues, and occasional drawbawbacks, of ABS. Good information was provided from all points of view, and it's up to the individual to set their priorities and make their own choices.
I respect Red9's viewpoint, and apologize for insulting him. I could have found a better way of expressing a rebuttal.
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Rear Brake can grab & let go when JUST coming to a stop sign / red light and laying on the rear brake too heavy - again useless to me ... even dangerous if you don't expect it (Front brake a must in that case or you'll go through the stop line) (I know I didn't leave enough stopping distance ... but it happens)
(Wish I disarm the rear only)
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And did the other 5 in the pen, blah, blah, blah....
I started riding before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, and I'm done buying 900 pound motorcycles without ABS, EFI, or electric starters. I'll ride nearly anything, but if I'm buying - I'm buying with ABS.
I started riding before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, and I'm done buying 900 pound motorcycles without ABS, EFI, or electric starters. I'll ride nearly anything, but if I'm buying - I'm buying with ABS.