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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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I was on the highway today putting my latest engine upgrades through the paces. When I put my engine under load at 75MPH + (Really officers, I was not speeding) or drop to fifth to pass the clutch starts slipping. No issues anywhere else yet; just the highway. I intend to readjust my clutch, but here are a few questions anyway.

Since I am running the 107 kit with stage 2 heads and the stock clutch. I am probably on the edge where I need to get an SE clutch spring or a VDC - This thing: http://www.eglidegoodies.com/id156.html .

With the SE clutch spring, will the clutch pulling effort increase? If so how much? I am weighing whether to go with the VDC which has great reviews. Thoughts or other assorted ideas are needed.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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What kind of oil is in your primary?
If synthetic, I'd start with changing that.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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A SE clutch spring is a good start; I would also go with a VPC. I was also told to stay away from synthetic primary fliuds by a few professionals. Also, I'm suprised that your tuner didn't notice the slippage on the dyno. Normally, the dyno chart will show slippage before you'll actually notice while riding.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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I am tuning using TTS. I use conventional 20w50 oil in primary. I never had issues with it. With the SE clutch spring, I'd like to understand whether clutch pull effort increases.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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With the se spring,yes clutch effort is increased by a little.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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Can the SE clutch spring be replaced through the derby cover, or do I need to pull the whole primary cover?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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Assuming your clutch pack is sound(just because it wasn't slipping before doesn't mean it's sound if it's old)a 340 or a 380 spring will be necessary. A VPC only works at about 3000+/- so you still need a decent spring, and your stock spring isn't going to cut it AT ALL. The spring you have was designed to be the lightest pulling spring they could get away with. Its less than 300lbs. The VPC has another side benefit of lowering the pull at 92% or an 8% reduction in pull with the VPC92. If you need the lightest pull you can and be certain it will hold, get the 340 with the VPC92 and a fresh clutch pack. AIM rates that to hold a 120r with a sound clutch. I am running that and it pulls fairly easy. I have a SE heavy spring for when I do my clutch plates, I will still use the VPC on top of the SE spring. Yes you will have a heavier pull on the lever. No way around it unless you pop for a hydraulic clutch.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by atrain68
Can the SE clutch spring be replaced through the derby cover, or do I need to pull the whole primary cover?
Gotta pull the whole outer cover, gasket can be reused if desired, it's almost 40 bucks!
 
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Jamie put the heavier spring in when he did my build... not sure if it's the same one you're looking at or not. It is definitely alot tougher pull, but I've gotten pretty used to it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
Gotta pull the whole outer cover, gasket can be reused if desired, it's almost 40 bucks!
Is this different on the twin-cams or due to an upgrade? I pulled mine without taking the primary cover off.
 
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