Hey all, just looking for a push in the right direction. I've had a few harleys up until this point with the following systems; 2-1 Rinehart (my favorite), Rinehart true duals, Bub 7 true duals, and D&D Fatcat 2-1. They've all had their +'s & -'s but I also have to remember I've had a 96" with just cams, a 103" BB with cams, and a 106" with cams & stage II headwork. I bought a SG with stage 1 and slipons so I ordered a PC, cams, and likely do another 103" BB as I was very content with the previous one I had. My question is how much will I be leaving on the table with stock 08' headpipes?? I've honestly never ran stock headpipes as I always removed them ASAP... I know a 2-1 is the way to go for performance but I just want a "milder" build this time with great sound and the ability to add headwork later. To be honest I'm tired of chasing HP - it's way too addictive.. I realize I'm preaching to the choir here so what to do??

 

MGS True Duals add 12+ ft lbs of torque. Sound great, look great. Check them out.

 

Get ahold of FuelMoto. Top notch people. always has time to anwser questions you have.

 

Performance is the issue? Horsepower is not?.... yet the 2 go hand in hand....I agree not worth chasing Horsepower...besides thats a cruiser ....if you are happy with it just sounding good then there is plenty you can do ............to get good sound, you can keep your stock headpipes.......all in all still increasing torque in most cases.....and you need nothing more than the right slip on's.......I would say look into some good slip on's and a stage 1...then just ride the **** outa it...right now I am not chasing power with my EVO...Id go broke....I am chasing sound......pipes. Yea in terms of power true duals are the way to go but then you probably find yourself chasing it again before its over....it really is the biker conundrum of the ages.......Buy the right mufflers and ride ride ride.

 

I would like to address this crap really quick.........Jeesh.









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I must say the first answer on this post is a very shitty blind ad...sponsor or not it did nothing more than promote a product...it did nothing to address the brothers question....what a crock......The seccond one....? Well to be honest I am not sure what the fuel moto one is all about...well ok I do but hey I am not usually out to Flog the prospects......if you people can't or won't try and answer the man's question ( this requires a non automated response, some neurons, and actualy grasping the ability to read and relate to the post)........then don't....For Petes sake "prospect" if you could have....if you would have read the post, you could obviously tell the poster has a better than you do understanding of the very crap from fuel moto you tagged him with.....it's just so damn ignorant he simply wanted "your" opinion on his question not a friggin refferal, people come here to interact with each other on common ground, and for the love of the machines, any idiot can find a vendor and call them and talk to some moron reading in broken English out of a scripted catalouge......He did not ask "Hey does anyone know where I can talk to someone who knows the answer to my post?" He was looking for "your thoughts" .......you obviously don't know enough to contribute anything positive....or your just like so many others with a Harley these days.....you just spent your money (neanderthal consumerism) on the name, and slapped the **** on your bike, and now your an expert by association...Just cuz you paid for it don't mean Fuel Moto knows Dick....but rather than offer up some kind of intelligent response you offer..."Hey call fuel moto they know what theyre talking about....'(cuz I dont )' WTF is anyone else tired of this crap or is it just me? .......Im just saying. Now someone with real knoweledge is bumped 2 spaces closer to the last page of a thread because you chimed in with nothing of relevance to offer! Man it felt great to vent. Oh...prospect... Mr "Potter"....edit your friggin signature...Tomarrow is spelled wrong....go figure...I'm still just saying.

 

Joboo that is a refreshing response! Not knocking fuelmoto or another brand but It does get old by hearing people say call such and such...... Here is my. 02 I am getting Freedom Performance Exhaust Arlen Ness a/c and PCV. Freedom is a small name brand......lower prices on a top notch exhaust... Not too many people have them... So I will not be like the countless sheep that have the samo samo on their rides. Figure I am a trail blazer with my associates who I ride with.... Anyone else agree with him?

 

I am not implying that within the context of the post you are responding to that you do not offer opinions on brands and parts, etc....But someones questions deserve an answer not just hey call so and so, or a blind ad. It is more than acceptable to offer your experience as it relates to the topic and then offer an opinion on parts...but offering advertisements and promotions and nothing else to support is as anti-climatic as premature ejaculation....it is ignorance and nothing more.

 

Thank you Joboo, I guess I over complicated my own question and left myself open to suggestion.... You were right, I just wanted to decide between head pipes - not brands.
This will be the 4th bike I modded (not built) in 5 years.. Not bragging but true, unfortunately. I've had 3 different sets of cams in one bike, guess what? I bet not one person could tell the difference by riding it unless I told them. I've changed exhaust systems to no avail. I tried different aftermarket tuners to no avail other than different degrees of usability. I've tried different pistons/bore - compression - headwork. I added high end clutches, compensators, compression releases, etc... The grass isn't always greener......

I'm not a "been there done that" person, I just wanted to simply know about headpipes because I never actually used the stock ones...

 

I totaly get it I really do. The sad part is unless you have a DYNO and an endless stockpile of free parts the cost of parts alone not to mention time and labor will kill you. This is precisely why you put up the post in the first place, hearing the actual expierence shared by others on like or similar bikes is priceless. You know thats why the whol tagging and bagging peoples posts with useless ads trying to sell parts is so irritating.

No do not think you are to blame in any way for the ignorance of others. I am no rocket scientist, but I am intelligent enough to know that when someone blogs on a forum asking a question like you did they are not asking for ad's or banners directing them to someones web site. Sorry it's just ignorance. I picked up right away what you were asking and that you had been down this road before. Really the smartest answer to your question is no one really knows for sure just how much you are leaving on or off the table in terms of sacrificial power or incremental torque but what we do know is that if you want to leave the stock headpipes on and I really reccomend you do then you can increase performance with the right slip on muff's, that said you open pandoras can of worms...theres always the issue of remapping on bikes with EFI and rejetting in some cases on carbs...which then leads to whether or not you want a specific sound, and then if you go less restricted so to speak and have to remap your in even deeper. It's almost a never ending crap shoot. I would love to know specifically what you want to accomplesh. I think if I read into your original thought process it seems like you are ok with not increasing HP...thats a crap shoot without getting deep into the engine---cams---head work etc...but I really think that if you leave the stock head pipes on as to keep this affordable and simple, you could opt for a strong set of pipes pre-tuned to your year make and model and then remap or jet if needed , many times it is not necessary sometimes it is based on how open you go, thats another story too.

Really Rush makes a good set of tuned pipes an so does Vance and Hines so if we are throwing out names as they apply to your situation this is something to consider pound for pound and they can be salty the SuperTraps are the best all around tuneable pipes made for HD bikes.

It's endless and really open to suggestion and preference.....ten people ten answers none the same. Good luck. I hope you find the happy medium.

And I hope the ignorance is over.......Im just saying....

 

Thank you, Joboo!

I've taken you advice and have been looking at V&H since I have already bought their 4" slipons.