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Old Mar 11, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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Do you have a pic of exactly where that tie wrap was?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 6 gun
Hd needs to go back to the throttle cables, but wire is less
expensive than cables, so more screw for you, and more profit for Harley Davidson
Originally Posted by Captain Itch
I like to keep things simple..A cable to a carb or throttle body would remove a lot of trouble..
I haven't been thrilled with TBW for the last couple of years and I tend to agree with y'all

Originally Posted by loanrider
Thanks for the Info I have a 12 RG, don't have that problem but it is good to know
Keep your fingers crossed. These limp mode problems ain't no picnic.

Originally Posted by obritt
Glad to see you finally got that problem fixed. I know it has been giving you trouble for some time now. Take care old buddy.
Thanks, buddy. I'm kinda holding my breath to see if this is a long term fix, although I'm thinking this has been the only problem with the TBW and has been overlooked for a long time.

Weather looks good for Sat.

Originally Posted by Bushrider
Thanks for the info. It is likely that there will be other bikes with wires tied exactly the same way and mine might be one of them!

You probably saved yourself a lot of $$$ just by going and messing around troubleshooting.

Originally Posted by FXR_Hamster
Good to know info, thanks for posting.
Originally Posted by RAWolters
Just happened to me last night on my 09 flhtp. Thanks for the info, off to check mine out.
Originally Posted by Loc_Tite
Thank You.
Just glad to contribute. I've been helped many times by reading other people's findings.

Originally Posted by VineRider
Do you have a pic of exactly where that tie wrap was?
I didn't take a picture but it's along the right side of the frame between the tank and the inner fairing. There is a large bundle of wires that runs through a big plastic ring. The big bundle separates into 2 or 3 smaller bundles about 2 inches ahead of that ring and the ty rap is right where the bundles separate.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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i have an 08 road glide that just started throwing the same codes when i get on it...thought i was taking off in second or third gear...guess i will see if i can play with the wires, i tried contact cleaner and dielectric grease on the plug behind the air cleaner...i have a date at the dealers next sat. for them to look at it....thanks for the imfo
 
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Thanks for sharing that info. Hopefully most of us won't have to worry about it, but you never know.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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I too have went into limp dingus mode three times in the last 47,000 miles. Each time I have removed the seat and wiggled that damn ECM plug and the bike always starts. It seems as though the cable was made just a tad too short and has a tendency to pull loose, ever so slight. I have put die electric grease on the plug end but truthfully it has not cured the problem. All three times this happened I went over a large bump in the road. I have heard other riders say that they were always in cruise control when they went into limp mode and thus assumbed that the cruise was the problem. I, however, think the problem was more closely linked to going over a bump while in cruise control and the cable was pulled tight as a result, resulting in a momentary drop in voltage to the ECM or someting. It does throw a code but the code is never clearly defined. So, I don't think the cruise control was the cause. Many riders have had this problem starting with 2008/2009 model year bikes and yet the MOCO has not seen fit to do a recall. I can tell you that if you are riding in heavy traffice at road speed and it craps out on you that the pucker factor is close to a 10. Curiously, complaints to the dealers service department are futile. They look at it and futz around for awhile to appease you but the problem never seems to be fixed. I think some of the mechanics suspect that the cable is too tight, as I do, but you can't just splice into that big honkin cable and lengthen it. It would have to be replaced by the factory. Until such time as the stars all line up and crickets begin to walk on match sticks, the only remedy I see is to wiggle and pull on the ECM plug under the seat.
 

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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A lot to learn about these bikes ain't there?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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Havin a few issues with bike since last week. Have a 2010 street glide and after about ten miles of riding last week it went into limp mode. Codes read 1511, 2100, and 2176. After a fea rookie hours of diagnosing i trailered it to the local hd dealership. After about a week and daily calls from me, they said it was the throttle body and tbw connector in the bars that had to be replaced. luckily they said warranty that had just run out 3 weeks ago would cover it. Just wanted to pass this on because from what i have read here, i know somebody else.will need it.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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I think I'm having the same problem. Any known ways to get bike out of limp mode?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Thankfully, I don't have this TBW crap. Progress and improvement is needed but don't do things just because you now have the technology. Cables did the job just fine and were less complicated. KEEP IT SIMPLE
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Retrop
I too have went into limp dingus mode three times in the last 47,000 miles. Each time I have removed the seat and wiggled that damn ECM plug and the bike always starts. It seems as though the cable was made just a tad too short and has a tendency to pull loose, ever so slight. I have put die electric grease on the plug end but truthfully it has not cured the problem. All three times this happened I went over a large bump in the road. I have heard other riders say that they were always in cruise control when they went into limp mode and thus assumbed that the cruise was the problem. I, however, think the problem was more closely linked to going over a bump while in cruise control and the cable was pulled tight as a result, resulting in a momentary drop in voltage to the ECM or someting. It does throw a code but the code is never clearly defined. So, I don't think the cruise control was the cause. Many riders have had this problem starting with 2008/2009 model year bikes and yet the MOCO has not seen fit to do a recall. I can tell you that if you are riding in heavy traffice at road speed and it craps out on you that the pucker factor is close to a 10. Curiously, complaints to the dealers service department are futile. They look at it and futz around for awhile to appease you but the problem never seems to be fixed. I think some of the mechanics suspect that the cable is too tight, as I do, but you can't just splice into that big honkin cable and lengthen it. It would have to be replaced by the factory. Until such time as the stars all line up and crickets begin to walk on match sticks, the only remedy I see is to wiggle and pull on the ECM plug under the seat.
Good work to the OP in diagnosing and finding the broken wires.

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Your problem could be caused by fretting of the pins as explained here:

TT418: DTCs P2135 and P2101 Theory and Diagnostics
 
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