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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by plutnicki
Count me as one who likes the look enough to have just ordered some Big Blue Lowers today! Didn't think of engine cooling/heating so much as increased wind protection, storage and, actually, looks to fill in that empty space in the engine guard...
Jim, what was the delivery time and approximate cost for everything? I think they would make a great place to store speakers
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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I ordered them online from Lake Shore HD. I had a previous conversation with Bill from there and he said they were typically running 3 - 4 weeks, but they don't (can't) guarantee any better than 6 - 8 weeks.

Price was roughly 20% under HD MSRP, they are doing free shipping over $500 (and I ordered a bunch of other stuff) and I used one of my Chrome Cash certificates as well.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TURQ
Jim, what was the delivery time and approximate cost for everything? I think they would make a great place to store speakers

if anyone is looking for the Speaker versions of the vented lowers, I got mine from Pete at Soundz in SD while he was down at Bike Week.


they are the vented lowers, come with the storage pouches (if you wanted those for some reason) and they come with the speaker pods as well.

I just had mine painted to match and finally put them on this past week to dry fit them with the SE HB to see how much room there really isn't.


it does make sense about the lowers cooling the bike off with the vents open, as it funnels all that air directly into the engine, versus just letting it go around the bike, but for the guy above that has the NON-VENTED lowers, I would expect those to be hotter as they do not allow air through.

anyways, for those looking and not wanting to wait for HD call Pete - 605-274-3535 and just get your own ones painted to match
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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I like the look as well and purcased the vented ones. I bought mine for the look and the (now lockable) storage is a nice feature too. Glad to hear they work to cool the engine a few degrees.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
How did you determine the engine cooled down? Oil temp? Cylinder head temp? Other?
Here in the south if your butt is starting cook and the cylinders are real hot and then you make a change of something and the heat coming from the cylinders is not as hot as it was and your butt cools down, thats kinda what I go by.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by orangevette
Here in the south if your butt is starting cook and the cylinders are real hot and then you make a change of something and the heat coming from the cylinders is not as hot as it was and your butt cools down, thats kinda what I go by.
Thanks. I see. So the cooling effect you're experiencing is based on your perception, not any quantifiable measurements. That's ok for an indication but it's hard to make a real conclusion. It could have felt cooler to you simply because your legs and butt were now getting more airflow, but the only way you would know what temperature the engine was seeing is by doing some measurement.

Perception is a strong indicator, but not always accurate. Ever notice how much better your bike (or car) feels right after you detail it? I know I do. But I also know it's only my perception because cleaning my bike or car has zero effect on the way they perform.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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The original question was motor hotter/cooler with lowers on/off and I responded with my test.
( no oil cooler on the bike at that time, I now do have an oil cooler.
but have not retested. Can't be bothered to pull the lowers off when there is not likely a return 0

1 thing- with lowers on, the higher flow of air across the motor will remove more heat---however that may increase the riders perception of heat- the "blow dryer effect".

so the motor is cooler, ( measured by oil temps in the pan) but the rider may experience more of that heat as it is pulled from the motor and blasts by the thighs

speaking of which, if the thighs are tight to the tank the hot air will go by on the outside, if there is a gap, the hot air will slow and nicely cook the thigh on both sides.

thighs to the tank also helps with valvetrain clatter

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Old May 3, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
The original question was motor hotter/cooler with lowers on/off and I responded with my test.
( no oil cooler on the bike at that time, I now do have an oil cooler.
but have not retested. Can't be bothered to pull the lowers off when there is not likely a return 0

1 thing- with lowers on, the higher flow of air across the motor will remove more heat---however that may increase the riders perception of heat- the "blow dryer effect".

so the motor is cooler, ( measured by oil temps in the pan) but the rider may experience more of that heat as it is pulled from the motor and blasts by the thighs

speaking of which, if the thighs are tight to the tank the hot air will go by on the outside, if there is a gap, the hot air will slow and nicely cook the thigh on both sides.

thighs to the tank also helps with valvetrain clatter

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mike you tend to kill threads with facts and resonable conclusions is there no more room for lying and BS'ing on here
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Using the same air flow principle, wouldn't the chrome fork baffle push more air onto the front cylinder and thus create cooling or does it block it. Bought one and wondering about that aspect before I install.

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Old May 3, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
Thanks. I see. So the cooling effect you're experiencing is based on your perception, not any quantifiable measurements. That's ok for an indication but it's hard to make a real conclusion. It could have felt cooler to you simply because your legs and butt were now getting more airflow, but the only way you would know what temperature the engine was seeing is by doing some measurement.

Perception is a strong indicator, but not always accurate. Ever notice how much better your bike (or car) feels right after you detail it? I know I do. But I also know it's only my perception because cleaning my bike or car has zero effect on the way they perform.
I'll just go with perception...
 
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