Is this true?
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From: Maryland
The Super Tuner changes the way your ECM thinks. If you were able to buy a Super ECM you wouldn't need a Super Tuner. I think what you meant to ask was more along the lines of, "Do I need to do the Super Tuner if I buy the Stage 1 intake?" Which is actually what I read the first time as my brain tried to make sense of it. The answer btw would be no. The Stage 1 would allow more air but that doesn't mean the ECM has to use the extra air.
Usually people do 3 things all at once though, b/c they tie into each other. Intake, exhaust, and some sort of tuner.
You say later you have Rineharts. When putting a free-flow exhaust on like that you should do the intake and tuner at the same time. Cats are a new thing and I don't have them, but I'd say they should be done at the same time as well.
I would STRONGLY reccomend NOT buying a used SE Race/Pro Tuner. As others have said, once they are used it marries/mates itself to the original bikes ECM and can't be re-used.
I read on another site that on 07 and newer that the ecm will compensate for slip-ons and a high flow filter without a tuner or remapping the ecm. Can anyone verify that for me as I am new to this also. My bike is 2012 SG. Thanks
Road Warrior
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Lets say it one more time. Don't buy a used SEPST period! Like has been said, once married to a bike it is only good for that particular ECM and bike.
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Road Warrior
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From: The Great River Road, Wisconsin
I have had 2 07's and used a SEPST on one, and currently use the Power Vision on the Electra Glide.
If I bought a brand new ride, and did no mods, I would buy a second liscense for my PV tuner just to de-emission a bone stocker, for they are brutally de tuned to meet the EPA's requirements.
Thank's California.........
Cruiser
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Toronto, Ont.
I would also suggest dont buy the SEPST. I recently posted a question about programing my PC-V which I had bought from Fuel-Moto, already mapped for a '09 96ci Ultra Classic. Traded the bike, kept the PC-V, put it on my '11 RGC 103ci and had the dealer do SE255 cams and dyno and re-map the PC-V. Bike ran ok but 'pinged' in certain areas. Called Fuel-Moto, gave them my mods and they emailed me a new map. Bike runs MINT!! Although they can't be used on 2 seperate bike at the same time, if you ever trade-up just keep the Power Commander. There are alot of supporters of Fuel-Moto on here and I am one of them. Save yourself the headache of the dealer or e-bay and I would suggest you contact them...I dont think you would be disappointed!! JMO.
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