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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FX4
How many guys are running the 2 vs the 3s. Talked with Howard tonight and I'm mulling over which way to go. The budget is really saying 2s but Howard thinks I will be happier with the 3s given I ride hard and travel long distance.
I think you will find most of us go with one or the other and very few if any have actually ridden both. Like you I talked through the options with Howard and bought #3-3s. My wife and I plus luggage are right on the maximum weight limit for our bike, also do long tours and I have no doubt #3s are a good choice.

We have done 2,500+ mile trips from the UK to Poland and another to Hungary and Slovenia, and we have never bottomed out, despite hitting some appalling roads in Eastern Europe. Did I say we have NEVER bottomed out?! If Howard suggests, I recommend taking his advice.

Slovenia is home to the oldest wheel in the World, about 5,000 years old and found near the capital of Ljubljana!
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
I have the 13.25" #2's(#2-#3) I don't ride super long distances consistently, I don't ride with alot of a load and I ride mainly solo. I do however spend some of my journeys going from one floorboard to another but I still have to ride on the freeways as well. At this point in time I have zero want for a different shock. But I have not tried another shock on this bike other than the stockers. Maybe if I took Howard up on his offer to come on out to Fla and test the different type Ohlins I would have a better frame of reference. I have used many different brands and I have used the piggyback Ohlins and the remote reservoirs Ohlins but not on this bike and not the current offerings. As I said these shocks, when set up correctly, are nothing short of excellent.
I think I asked you to come on down so we could go to Southbeach (Miami), eat stone crabs & lobster & drinking beer while looking at the historic architecture from the comfort of the outdoor bar, talking about shocks and motorcycling while avoiding this which we both already have at home.

grbrown, I believe that the Slovenia wheel "the oldest wheel in the World," was actually made in Poland as it is square.
 

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Old May 17, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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grbrown, I believe that the Slovenia wheel "the oldest wheel in the World," was actually made in Poland as it is square.
Ho ho Howard! A long way from Poland (my Ohlins have been there as well!). Here it is officially, courtesy the Slovenian Government. Sort of squared off round, although it is entitled to be a bit the worst for wear after all those years in mud.
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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You guys are a bunch of comedians. Thanks for the input GRBrown.
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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For the sake of an accurate comparison can anyone tell me what the actual sag/ride height of a stock 12 inch shock is? (Street Glide or Road King Custom) I will measure mine when I get a chance, but I won't be home from work for a while. I know the stock shocks don't sag much, but I don't want to just assume they are 12 inches, because I'm sure they probably aren't.
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FastHarley
I think I asked you to come on down so we could go to Southbeach (Miami), eat stone crabs & lobster & drinking beer while looking at the historic architecture from the comfort of the outdoor bar, talking about shocks and motorcycling while avoiding this which we both already have at home.

grbrown, I believe that the Slovenia wheel "the oldest wheel in the World," was actually made in Poland as it is square.
Ok now that sounds like fun. I like your idea much better than mine!!!
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
I have the 13.25" #2's(#2-#3) I don't ride super long distances consistently, I don't ride with alot of a load and I ride mainly solo. I do however spend some of my journeys going from one floorboard to another but I still have to ride on the freeways as well. At this point in time I have zero want for a different shock. But I have not tried another shock on this bike other than the stockers. Maybe if I took Howard up on his offer to come on out to Fla and test the different type Ohlins I would have a better frame of reference. I have used many different brands and I have used the piggyback Ohlins and the remote reservoirs Ohlins but not on this bike and not the current offerings. As I said these shocks, when set up correctly, are nothing short of excellent.
I'm mostly solo. Maybe 5% with my wife on back. I keep about 20lbs of junk in my saddle bags at all times. Better than 50% of my mileage is long distance, I ride with a couple of sport bike guys and hang with them surprisingly well. We ride stuff like 555 in Ohio and the occasional trip to the Dragon. One of my buddies tells me I would be scary on a sport bike, he always says man I can't believe how well you push that Harley..LOL. I always tell him I would get myself killed on a sport bike. I lack a certain fear required to ride those things sanely.
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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To expand on the question in my original post; I guess I was assuming that more stroke is automatically better with all else being equal, thus thinking that the 2-3 would be better than the 2-2B. Perhaps there is more to it than that. Maybe the 2-2B with its shorter stroke is better suited to different situations such as solo vs 2 up or different riding styles. Maybe just a matter of preference in feel, firmer vs softer. I'm sure each version has it's niche, but I don't know what the specialty might be. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Well I'm not a shock expert but I think it depends on how much travel you need. I only found one guy searching the forums that has bottomed out the 2-2s, I forget which ones. Howard sets up the base firmness according to your needs and you dial it in on your bike. Honestly I think Howard will tell you what he believes is best for your riding style. He did me. I'm just trying to convince myself to fork over the extra 250.00.
 
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Old May 17, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by skully1200
To expand on the question in my original post; I guess I was assuming that more stroke is automatically better with all else being equal, thus thinking that the 2-3 would be better than the 2-2B. Perhaps there is more to it than that. Maybe the 2-2B with its shorter stroke is better suited to different situations such as solo vs 2 up or different riding styles. Maybe just a matter of preference in feel, firmer vs softer. I'm sure each version has it's niche, but I don't know what the specialty might be. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
In essence you are right. On our bikes there are two principal limitations: 1 how far into the fender the wheel can travel before it hits something, 2 how tall the saddle can be made before the rider runs out of legs!

A feature of modern Harley owners (I've been riding them for almost 40 years) is the 'need' to flat foot. It isn't necessary and seriously limits the total travel available for the shocks. The 13" stock height of shocks is a good compromise and will actually suit most riders, except the very short or very tall.
 
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