107" Power Problems
If your tuner thinks your bike has 5.3 injectors, the squirt of fuel will be a lot shorter duration vs if it thinks you have 4.3's. Could be the reason you're adjusting your air to fuel at 13/1 and the results are 13.8/1???
Timing profiles need to match the cams you are using as well.
Last edited by scj; May 20, 2012 at 04:15 AM.
Call or email these guys, they WILL get you squared away.
The afr line is not even close to what you need. It's way to rich. Heck; buy the looks of it you don't need bigger injectors just a pipe and tuned
Last edited by Tn.Heritage; May 20, 2012 at 07:22 AM.
loose the tmax and get yourself a tts tuner.
Last edited by sporacer; May 20, 2012 at 07:32 AM.
The afr line is not even close to what you need. It's way to rich. Heck; buy the looks of it you don't need bigger injectors just a pipe and tuned
I appreciate all the feed back, but let me give you a little history on this build.

The bottom line is when I did a 103 upgrade with a TW-6-6 cam and stock heads, D&D Boss exhaust. I was expecting reasonable TQ in the 110 ft/lb range and HP high 90's low 100's. This was with the TMax. When we couldn't get any better numbers the tuner did a comp check and leak down, low comp, but leak down good. I figured the bore job was the problem, tuner suggested going to 107".
Top line is 107", stage II lite heads, TW6-6 cam, D&D Boss, TMax. Also had the crank straightened, balanced, welded, & left Timkens installed. I was not pleased with the gain. Compression was good although the head chambers were 92cc's putting it in the 160 psi range. Not outside the ability to make power.

So here I re-did things again, went with stage II heads, TR590 cam, D&D Boss, and an EMS tuner. The dyno is showing a very rich condition so I sent the EMS in to have it reprogrammed.

I got the EMS back and as you can see not much changed. My thought now is try a different tuning device which some of you have suggested.

These are dyno runs from yesterday, the condition is now lean. The TMax is programmed at 13.0:1 to 13.2:1 throughout the full throttle position. Changing the map didn't seem to have much of an effect on the AFR.
What I see in all of these maps is that the torque line is relatively flat. I know some of that is the kind of graph used, but the numbers are relatively flat also. 90 ft/lbs. of tq is about where most builds like this are at 2500 rpm. I am not against a different tuning devise and/or tuner, but I have talked with people with my same build (different, but similar heads) using an EMS that are making tq in the mid 120's and hp in the low 120's. I'm not saying I am looking for those numbers, but I didn't go to all this trouble to be making tq in the low 100's and hp in the 90's. Because of the flat tq line in every graph I am questioning whether there is an underlying problem in the intake/injection system or somewhere else that is not letting the power come up in the mid-ranges.
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