PCIII USB Ignition Table Enable Question
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PCIII USB Ignition Table Enable Question
As the title says that is what I have in my 06 Ultra. Had the motor bumped and heads done and now I have some pinging. I went into the ignition tables and changed the numbers according to fuel moto to eleviate the problem. It still pings.
I then put some negative numbers in the 10% throttle column all the way to 3krpm. When I reved the bike up I was expecting the lower right 2 boxes for Ignition and Ignition2 to show negative numbers because I retarded the ignition. The number never moved off zero. So to me that means it isnt retarding.
Is there something I have to click on in the program to acvtivate the ignition tables so it takes the changes?
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I then put some negative numbers in the 10% throttle column all the way to 3krpm. When I reved the bike up I was expecting the lower right 2 boxes for Ignition and Ignition2 to show negative numbers because I retarded the ignition. The number never moved off zero. So to me that means it isnt retarding.
Is there something I have to click on in the program to acvtivate the ignition tables so it takes the changes?
Thanks
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When you made the timing changes, did you load that map into the PC?
Simply typing the numbers into the table does not load the changes to the PC. You need to make the changes and the send the map to the PC. Be sure to save the maps you create and the original so you can get back to any of them if necessary.
It's been a while since I played with a PCIII so you can try what I'm saying, but don't take it as gospel.
Simply typing the numbers into the table does not load the changes to the PC. You need to make the changes and the send the map to the PC. Be sure to save the maps you create and the original so you can get back to any of them if necessary.
It's been a while since I played with a PCIII so you can try what I'm saying, but don't take it as gospel.
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Yep...made the changes and sent them. Computer said sending then complete. Also saved original. Notice the -10 for the fuel table. Idle is set at the -10 for that table and it shows up. Weird that the ignition variable dosent show.
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After staring at the bike, drinking some beer, and thinking I believe I found out the problem.
The zip tie holding the plugs together came loose for some reason and with the bouncing around the connection got lost. Zip tied it tight and viola...the numbers showed up. I still have some pinging in 5th gear(not as bad) when Im cruising and roll the throttle but it went away in all the other gears. Thats just going to be a minor number change to fix.
The zip tie holding the plugs together came loose for some reason and with the bouncing around the connection got lost. Zip tied it tight and viola...the numbers showed up. I still have some pinging in 5th gear(not as bad) when Im cruising and roll the throttle but it went away in all the other gears. Thats just going to be a minor number change to fix.
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I then put some negative numbers in the 10% throttle column all the way to 3krpm. When I reved the bike up I was expecting the lower right 2 boxes for Ignition and Ignition2 to show negative numbers because I retarded the ignition. The number never moved off zero. So to me that means it isnt retarding.
You also enrich AFR's in the affected areas to suppress detonation, but I would first make sure the changes you've made aren't helping.
Last edited by iclick; Jun 10, 2012 at 03:12 PM.
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The numbers up there were from the original dynotune. We were on a trip this weekend so thats what I used after realizing the connection problem. If I am reading your post right it looks like I should use the ignition table to pin point exactly where the ping is and then enrich the fuel table in that area. Thanks...will have to play with the numbers some this week.
I'm surprised, as that's a good bit of ignition retard. Does it sound like it made any improvement?
It should show when you are in that range, that is if you sent the map to the PCIII (which you said you did). I would load the software and "Get Map" just to be sure the ignition tables have indeed been changed. Remember that it's difficult to get 20% or higher TP at the subject RPM's while in neutral, at least not for long enough to likely see a value show up on the computer, so you may need to have a passenger hold the laptop while riding just to check.
You also enrich AFR's in the affected areas to suppress detonation, but I would first make sure the changes you've made aren't helping.
It should show when you are in that range, that is if you sent the map to the PCIII (which you said you did). I would load the software and "Get Map" just to be sure the ignition tables have indeed been changed. Remember that it's difficult to get 20% or higher TP at the subject RPM's while in neutral, at least not for long enough to likely see a value show up on the computer, so you may need to have a passenger hold the laptop while riding just to check.
You also enrich AFR's in the affected areas to suppress detonation, but I would first make sure the changes you've made aren't helping.
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What is the origin of your current PCIII map? If you got it from Fuel Moto or DynoJet it is already quite rich and I wouldn't recommend adding more fuel.