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This blows me away. I had an 08 Street Glide that I had 61K miles on and did not need to change the front pads. I replaced the rear pads at about 15K. I do hit the rears first and then modulate the fronts depending on how quick I need to start. I can't believe the fronts would be wore out that quick.
If you are going to use one brake more than the other it should be the front. Front is 70% of your braking power. Same in cars. That is why for the longest time while fronts were disc rears were still drums. I won't swear to it till I have gone and looked but I think, even though the pads are the same, the rear rotors are actually smaller than the front. Meaning they get hotter quicker and fade.
I have 51,000 on my original brake pads. No grinding yet. Just to be safe I have new pads on the bench waiting to be installed. Most of my riding is on the open road so I don't have to contend with stop signs much.
What is the average milage most guys are getting on a set of brake pads (front rear) on an 08 ultra classic under normal braking conditions.
I have 9100 miles and pads look like they are getting worn down. But I don't know the thickness of a new pad.
Riding conditions and styles will dictate pad life more than anything else so it's hard to determine expected life. It will vary widely between different riders. My Limited has 24k on it and the pads have well over 50% of the original pad thickness remaining.
As for the original thickness of the pads, The '09 and newer Brembo's are .15 new. Not sure what the '08 and earlier are.
Originally Posted by Dew Me
...I won't swear to it till I have gone and looked but I think, even though the pads are the same, the rear rotors are actually smaller than the front. Meaning they get hotter quicker and fade.
Actually, on models with dual discs up front the front rotors are thinner than the rear. Approximately .275 rear, .200 front. But there are two of them.
On my Duece with a single disc up front, the front roter is thicker than the rear.
Even though the rear rotor is not as thick as the front, as the case on single front discs, or also the case on dual disc fronts by virtue of two discs, this does not mean the rear will overheat and fade faster. The rear does not have the same loads upon it as the front. Therefore it can be engineered to work just as efficiently as the front even though it is smaller (thinner) because of the lower loads it will see in operation.
Actually, on models with dual discs up front the front rotors are thinner than the rear. Approximately .275 rear, .200 front. But there are two of them.
The rear does not have the same loads upon it as the front. Therefore it can be engineered to work just as efficiently as the front even though it is smaller (thinner) because of the lower loads it will see in operation.
With either thinner duel or single thicker you have the same effect relating to the rear brakes.
B/c of the lower loads the rear brakes do a much smaller % of your braking. As such, if mostly using rear brakes you have to apply them harder, hence making them hotter, hence causing fade.
It sounds as if you are defending a guy that primarily uses his rear brake. I was trying to suggest to the guy that for his safety and for better stopping distance he should use his front brakes more.
I'm no engineer and cannot as effectively explain what I know to be true.
When slowing and braking the cycle load shifts to the front, if you use the less loaded rear wheel for primary braking, it could break loose and lose traction which could cause a handling problem and you could loose control. I try to use the front for primary and rear as secondary brake.
With either thinner duel or single thicker you have the same effect relating to the rear brakes.
B/c of the lower loads the rear brakes do a much smaller % of your braking. As such, if mostly using rear brakes you have to apply them harder, hence making them hotter, hence causing fade.
It sounds as if you are defending a guy that primarily uses his rear brake. I was trying to suggest to the guy that for his safety and for better stopping distance he should use his front brakes more.
I'm no engineer and cannot as effectively explain what I know to be true.
I'm not defending anyone. I was only responding to your reference that the rear brake will get hot and fade faster because it is smaller. That is not the case. What your saying in this post relative to overuse of the rear brake is more accurate. They will get hot and fade from overuse, not because they are smaller but because they are being overused, and I agree with you on that point.
Last edited by 2black1s; Jun 22, 2012 at 12:00 AM.
What your saying in this post relative to overuse of the rear brake is more accurate. They will get hot and fade from overuse, not because they are smaller but because they are being overused, and I agree with you on that point.
Sorry I didn't explain myself better the first time around.
Originally Posted by turnerbend
When slowing and braking the cycle load shifts to the front, if you use the less loaded rear wheel for primary braking, it could break loose and lose traction which could cause a handling problem and you could loose control. I try to use the front for primary and rear as secondary brake.
I change mine everytime i change the tires, regardless of miles. Just for my own piece of mind knowing i'm on a trip and won't have to swing into the stealer to get a rotor or pads replaced.
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