Storz Performance fork install
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Storz Performance fork install
I have always admired this company's products, and used to dream that I would, one day-be able to afford, and install one of these beauties, on my '88 FXR.. Has anyone with an FL motorcycle, done a complete front fork replacement-using this fork? They also indicate that you need to 'call for price'.. Anyone know the cost? Thanks, in advance.
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I have always admired this company's products, and used to dream that I would, one day-be able to afford, and install one of these beauties, on my '88 FXR.. Has anyone with an FL motorcycle, done a complete front fork replacement-using this fork? They also indicate that you need to 'call for price'.. Anyone know the cost? Thanks, in advance.
I'm guessing that after you buy the forks and new triple tree set up, you're going to be looking at a good $3000-3500. You should really call them.
While the Storz-Ceriani forks are very nice, I'm gonna hold out for Howard over at Motorcycle Metal for a pair of Ohlins cartridge inserts for my bagger. Hopefully it won't be too cost prohibitive.
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Steve Storz has some really top notch inverted forks in his catalog. That being said, I didn't know that he had anything that would work on a FL. Most of his stuff is geared towards, Sportys, Dynas, and FXRs.
I'm guessing that after you buy the forks and new triple tree set up, you're going to be looking at a good $3000-3500. You should really call them.
While the Storz-Ceriani forks are very nice, I'm gonna hold out for Howard over at Motorcycle Metal for a pair of Ohlins cartridge inserts for my bagger. Hopefully it won't be too cost prohibitive.
I'm guessing that after you buy the forks and new triple tree set up, you're going to be looking at a good $3000-3500. You should really call them.
While the Storz-Ceriani forks are very nice, I'm gonna hold out for Howard over at Motorcycle Metal for a pair of Ohlins cartridge inserts for my bagger. Hopefully it won't be too cost prohibitive.
- Top bushing called the slider bushing it wears on the blue/bottom side because the weight of the bike on the tire is pushing the fork tube downwards, putting pressure on the bottom side of the slider bushing.
- Bottom guide bushing is worn on the top/Blue side because the tire is pushing it up to the top of the slider.
- Try doing this with a pencil and your other hand. Push the bottom of the pencil up and watch how it works.
By adding a second (double row) of slider bushings can have a desired result. This would require the machining of a longer cavity for the top slider bushing. This is how a conventional Ohlins fork ($4,500), usually not sold in this country, is made to work.
I have been working on many new things including never before offered suspension components including and not only the FLH 49mm front suspension system. There will be much more to come. It is what is inside and how well something works, do not get dazzled at glossy pictures and the promises that it is quality. In place, go to the track and see what technology really works. When the checkered flag comes down, there is no excuses. What works on the track will work on the street, only the values are changed (ie: valving, piston design, and spring choice).
Below is the original "first out" bottom triple tree which was the hardest and most expensive to make. It can not be made from Billet Aluminum because of the bottom thickness (3/8") because if that distance is not maintained, you would reduce stroke to prevent the fender to crash into the bottom of the triple tree due to the necessity of at least 1 1/2" of billet aluminum needed.
Top of the bottom triple tree
Bottom of the bottom triple tree
- The fork tubes are 49mm for increased rigidity from deflection made only by us and not HD.
- The dampening is a cartridge system that offers seperate external spring pre-load, compression and rebound adjustment.
- The above bottom triple tree only cost $10,600 to develop minus making the first triple tree for those do-it-yourself members.
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We have been working on the top triple tree as the bottom one is done. Made of a strong stainless called 14PH, very expensive to buy the ingots. This conversion will be available in 49mm conventional forks and inverted forks. This option is nothing like the aforementioned product. There is a big difference between what is inside of a fork and how well it works. In some cases, an inverted fork is not the best option, especially when it comes to a Bagger with the 6.9" of trail & huge rake (26ş frame & 4ş[2006~Current] & 4.5ş [1986~2008]. The bike is putting far more weight on the fork tubes and the bushings wear out on one side
By adding a second (double row) of slider bushings can have a desired result. This would require the machining of a longer cavity for the top slider bushing. This is how a conventional Ohlins fork ($4,500), usually not sold in this country, is made to work.
I have been working on many new things including never before offered suspension components including and not only the FLH 49mm front suspension system. There will be much more to come. It is what is inside and how well something works, do not get dazzled at glossy pictures and the promises that it is quality. In place, go to the track and see what technology really works. When the checkered flag comes down, there is no excuses. What works on the track will work on the street, only the values are changed (ie: valving, piston design, and spring choice).
Below is the original "first out" bottom triple tree which was the hardest and most expensive to make. It can not be made from Billet Aluminum because of the bottom thickness (3/8") because if that distance is not maintained, you would reduce stroke to prevent the fender to crash into the bottom of the triple tree due to the necessity of at least 1 1/2" of billet aluminum needed.
Top of the bottom triple tree
Bottom of the bottom triple tree
- Top bushing called the slider bushing it wears on the blue/bottom side because the weight of the bike on the tire is pushing the fork tube downwards, putting pressure on the bottom side of the slider bushing.
- Bottom guide bushing is worn on the top/Blue side because the tire is pushing it up to the top of the slider.
- Try doing this with a pencil and your other hand. Push the bottom of the pencil up and watch how it works.
By adding a second (double row) of slider bushings can have a desired result. This would require the machining of a longer cavity for the top slider bushing. This is how a conventional Ohlins fork ($4,500), usually not sold in this country, is made to work.
I have been working on many new things including never before offered suspension components including and not only the FLH 49mm front suspension system. There will be much more to come. It is what is inside and how well something works, do not get dazzled at glossy pictures and the promises that it is quality. In place, go to the track and see what technology really works. When the checkered flag comes down, there is no excuses. What works on the track will work on the street, only the values are changed (ie: valving, piston design, and spring choice).
Below is the original "first out" bottom triple tree which was the hardest and most expensive to make. It can not be made from Billet Aluminum because of the bottom thickness (3/8") because if that distance is not maintained, you would reduce stroke to prevent the fender to crash into the bottom of the triple tree due to the necessity of at least 1 1/2" of billet aluminum needed.
Top of the bottom triple tree
Bottom of the bottom triple tree
- The fork tubes are 49mm for increased rigidity from deflection made only by us and not HD.
- The dampening is a cartridge system that offers seperate external spring pre-load, compression and rebound adjustment.
- The above bottom triple tree only cost $10,600 to develop minus making the first triple tree for those do-it-yourself members.
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The Storz would work out at about $2500 but I am not sure it will fit the touring models, it would be good to see what else is offered, Howard, you need to get your website sorted out, it's terrible and you offer some great products so put a little into your site.
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I supose that if a person can not understand my web site and want splashy crap in place of content and service, than I would suggest I am not worthy of consideration. I am truly sorry but we are about real performance, one that you can not find anywhere else. I guess I am too busy to do pleasing web sites for the Gucci crowd.
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I supose that if a person can not understand my web site and want splashy crap in place of content and service, than I would suggest I am not worthy of consideration. I am truly sorry but we are about real performance, one that you can not find anywhere else. I guess I am too busy to do pleasing web sites for the Gucci crowd.
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We have been working on the top triple tree as the bottom one is done. Made of a strong stainless called 14PH, very expensive to buy the ingots. This conversion will be available in 49mm conventional forks and inverted forks. This option is nothing like the aforementioned product.
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You'd be dead wrong there Pondskipper. There's nothing pitiful about the product, nor about the personal customer service that Howard provides. You're getting custom built Ohlins made for you, with the most unheard of customer service I've ever experienced.
In the motorcycle racing world, the reputation of Ohlins shocks speaks for themselves. It would also be pretty tough for you to find someone with Howard's technical knowledge of motorcycle suspensions that will actually talk to you on the phone, and answer any question you might have. I mean, the guy was on the phone with me for an hour explaining the nomenclature of the shocks, and actually stayed on the phone with me while I installed them. Who does that?
While Howard's website might not be the prettiest or user friendly one on the internet, it gets the job done. I was able to extract all the information I needed, and order my shocks without any problem. When I called the number to order my shocks, I actually talked to Howard not some order processor at a call center that doesn't know **** from shinola.
In the motorcycle racing world, the reputation of Ohlins shocks speaks for themselves. It would also be pretty tough for you to find someone with Howard's technical knowledge of motorcycle suspensions that will actually talk to you on the phone, and answer any question you might have. I mean, the guy was on the phone with me for an hour explaining the nomenclature of the shocks, and actually stayed on the phone with me while I installed them. Who does that?
While Howard's website might not be the prettiest or user friendly one on the internet, it gets the job done. I was able to extract all the information I needed, and order my shocks without any problem. When I called the number to order my shocks, I actually talked to Howard not some order processor at a call center that doesn't know **** from shinola.
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You'd be dead wrong there Pondskipper. There's nothing pitiful about the product, nor about the personal customer service that Howard provides. You're getting custom built Ohlins made for you, with the most unheard of customer service I've ever experienced.
In the motorcycle racing world, the reputation of Ohlins shocks speaks for themselves. It would also be pretty tough for you to find someone with Howard's technical knowledge of motorcycle suspensions that will actually talk to you on the phone, and answer any question you might have. I mean, the guy was on the phone with me for an hour explaining the nomenclature of the shocks, and actually stayed on the phone with me while I installed them. Who does that?
While Howard's website might not be the prettiest or user friendly one on the internet, it gets the job done. I was able to extract all the information I needed, and order my shocks without any problem. When I called the number to order my shocks, I actually talked to Howard not some order processor at a call center that doesn't know **** from shinola.
In the motorcycle racing world, the reputation of Ohlins shocks speaks for themselves. It would also be pretty tough for you to find someone with Howard's technical knowledge of motorcycle suspensions that will actually talk to you on the phone, and answer any question you might have. I mean, the guy was on the phone with me for an hour explaining the nomenclature of the shocks, and actually stayed on the phone with me while I installed them. Who does that?
While Howard's website might not be the prettiest or user friendly one on the internet, it gets the job done. I was able to extract all the information I needed, and order my shocks without any problem. When I called the number to order my shocks, I actually talked to Howard not some order processor at a call center that doesn't know **** from shinola.
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