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Sep 20, 2012 | 02:55 PM

#21

Loc_Tite

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Originally Posted by harley_badboy

I was talking to dealer today about a used 2012 CVO Ultra, they were asking 42K CDN for it.. The dealer mentioned it had 18k kilometers plus over 5K in upgrades. I said for that price I would rather buy new and I also said I thought the price of the upgrades was normally excluded from used bikes. Their response "Extras do not count when you are trading in but they count when you sell the bike" - exact words. Blatant theft or what! You gotta give them credit for being honest though.

Just curious- what did they spend $5,000 on to "upgrade" a CVO?

Sep 20, 2012 | 03:23 PM

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bigdaddy33

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I hear what you're saying, but it's just business. The dealer can't force someone to sell the bike to them or force someone to buy the bike from them. If the seller or buyer doesn't like the deal, walk away. If enough people aren't happy with the deal, the dealership has to change their model if it wants to stay in business.

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Originally Posted by harley_badboy

I think you missed the point. I know if you spend x$ on the bike it's not theft - price is dictated by the market and what an individual will pay. That's not my issue here. What is an issue to me is that the dealers will not pay for the extra parts you put on your bike but will charge the buyer of your bike for those parts parts once the bike is sold. So if you put $5000 worth of upgrades on your bike you'll get nothing for those parts but the dealer will markup the trade by the value of those parts. To me if they don't pay for the extras on your bike then they shouldn't markup the bike for the extras when selling. As someone else said that's why they are called 'stealerships'.

Sep 20, 2012 | 03:34 PM

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dansflhti

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The retail up here on a 2013 CVO Ultra is $42699 and the Anni Edition is $43839

Sep 20, 2012 | 04:33 PM

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The "stealerships" have to make money too. It's not like they can buy a bike and turn around and sell it for the same amount. Also, if you're dealing with a dealer directly it's most often safe to assume that they have done an inspection of the bike to make sure it's in good working order. You can't call a guy up that you bought from on craighslist and expect him to do anything about it. A dealer is a different story.

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Sep 20, 2012 | 08:45 PM

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Tinman265

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Originally Posted by dansflhti

The retail up here on a 2013 CVO Ultra is $42699 and the Anni Edition is $43839

That's just outrageous! But I guess it's the exchange rate at this time. And what I hear of the Canadian price fixing.

The example pete6114 gave is for a bike in Ohio. So at 36k it is listed at 1300 off new MSRP..... I don't understand some dealers...... There is one here in St. Charles, IL that has a 2010 Ultra Limited. They have had the bike on the sales floor for the past year....... Yes, a whole year. It has 15k on the odometer and it is bone stock. last time i looked at the tag on the bike they are asking 22,000 for it...... I know it's a really pretty 2 tone but come on.

I imagine it will continue to sit there........

Sep 21, 2012 | 06:36 AM

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Rodzilla6

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THAT'S WHY I NEVER TRADE...YOU BASICLY GIVE YOUR OLD BIKE AWAY SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANY CASH DOWN...FEELS GOOD, BUT IS A TOTAL SCREW JOB!!! I buy my bike from them, go back ONLY for MANDATORY warranty work ONLY and then find a standup indie, which I have!!! Extended warranty...NOT. Put that money in your own bank account for repairs. I had to fight with them to honor the regular warranty...plus it's not HD, but a third party...oh, and watch out for all the other horse hockey that they try to load your deal up with...