ABS on a Ultra Classic
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IMO, you probably have learned the proper and effective use of motorcycle brakes over the years and don't need a POS computer trying to second guess what you want to do.
Never owned a car or bike with that crap on it - never will.
Never owned a car or bike with that crap on it - never will.
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Just curious. Are you still driving that 58 Buick with the Dynaslide transmission and that 1963 BMW R60/2 bike?
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Since you feel the need to know...
Plenty of older cars, trucks & bikes out there without that junk on them, so I'm set if I need to replace one of mine.
Ride safe and enjoy the security of having vehicles that think for you. Guess you feel you need that and that's fine for you, but I don't.
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Thanks to all for the input.I'm old school with 40+ years on the street and 10 before that on the dirt. I've owned and ridden countless bikes without ABS over those years but have now owned two with it and am confident that it saved me twice.Once late on a dark night during a short stop at an intersection with sand I didn't see that keep me from sliding through the intersection and getting hit.And once when a car from a cross street 50 feet away pulled out and froze and all I could do was grap all the brake I could to soften the T-bone. Instead I stopped inches from his door.While I don't rely on it during normal riding, it's been useful to have during situations when the computer can react faster than this old man ever could.Thanks again and ride safe!
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Here's the article from the Institute for Highway Safety on ABS on Motorcycles.
In short, newer riders do need it more than experienced riders, ( 37% vs. 19% on Insurance claims.... no surprise,) but there is still statistically good reason for all bikes to have it.
That having been said, I don't need the additional technology involved. Just a personal choice. Like others, I'm past 40 years on a bike, but not on just weekends. It's my primary transportation year round, wet, dry, icy, fog, etc. and I simply don't lock 'em up, ever, even in panic stops...That's 3 or 400,000 miles of practice I suppose, so I'm definitely the exception too.
See below:
http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr062012.html
In short, newer riders do need it more than experienced riders, ( 37% vs. 19% on Insurance claims.... no surprise,) but there is still statistically good reason for all bikes to have it.
That having been said, I don't need the additional technology involved. Just a personal choice. Like others, I'm past 40 years on a bike, but not on just weekends. It's my primary transportation year round, wet, dry, icy, fog, etc. and I simply don't lock 'em up, ever, even in panic stops...That's 3 or 400,000 miles of practice I suppose, so I'm definitely the exception too.
See below:
http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr062012.html
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ABS is a nice to have. If you've been riding 40+ years, you made it many years without ABS.
I like the extra security of ABS, but I think putting a car tire on the rear will serve you better than ABS will.
I bought a 08 street glide without ABS and after a short while I was wishing I had got ABS on it. Then I changed the POS OEM rear tire for an E3 and never even thought about ABS again.
Now I've got a Limited with a 205 car tire on the rear and I can't hardly engage the ABS. I had a teeny bopper girl pull out in front of me a couple of weeks ago. I stood up on the brake pedal and never engaged the ABS.
I like the extra security of ABS, but I think putting a car tire on the rear will serve you better than ABS will.
I bought a 08 street glide without ABS and after a short while I was wishing I had got ABS on it. Then I changed the POS OEM rear tire for an E3 and never even thought about ABS again.
Now I've got a Limited with a 205 car tire on the rear and I can't hardly engage the ABS. I had a teeny bopper girl pull out in front of me a couple of weeks ago. I stood up on the brake pedal and never engaged the ABS.
You use the REAR brake as your primary during a panic stop?
Wow...
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I agree every little bit helps don't risk your life because you are to big a man to admit a computer can do it better.!!!! And yes I'am 58 years old and have been riding for 35 of these years. And know how to use a brake pedal and lever together with out losing it
At home drinking excuse my rant and punctuation but have had bikes with and without one less thing to worry about when looking for a way out
At home drinking excuse my rant and punctuation but have had bikes with and without one less thing to worry about when looking for a way out
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