Oil level for 103
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Oil level for 103
What issues if any can having the oil level right on the top full mark on the dipstick for a hot check?
This is the level I show on my 2012 SG when checking hot on the jiffy stand after I did and oil change.
I don't noticed any oil coming from the A/C, but believe it or not the engine valve train noise sounds louder since the oil change.
I used the same oil and filter that was previously installed HD 20W50 conventional and the HD superpremium filter.
Is there any reason that I should have more valve train noise after this oil change?????
This is the level I show on my 2012 SG when checking hot on the jiffy stand after I did and oil change.
I don't noticed any oil coming from the A/C, but believe it or not the engine valve train noise sounds louder since the oil change.
I used the same oil and filter that was previously installed HD 20W50 conventional and the HD superpremium filter.
Is there any reason that I should have more valve train noise after this oil change?????
Last edited by P51Driver; Oct 30, 2012 at 07:20 PM.
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With the return side of the oil pump larger then the pressure side drawing from your oil tank side it cannot make a difference. You could strap a 5 gallon tank on the side and plumb it to your tank and it would not make a difference. The oil does not run to the engine. It is pulled by the vacuum created by the pump. The noise varies greatly with engine temperature. You are probably hearing exhaust tone. Put a stethoscope that is in both ears on different part of the engine. Bet it sounds fine. Just a steady whir hum. No real erratic pecks or ticks
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I'm not a mechanic by any means, but.... according to the manual the engine takes 4 quarts dry. so with the sump holding approximately 3/4 of a quart, 3 quarts during a oil change should be a good starting point. Once warmed up, I would check the level and make sure it's not over filled. If it is, the oil will airate and the valvetrain will be noisy. Don't ask how I know this!
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Sell it and get a new one! No wait, I think new cams fixes this.
J/K it could be that there is something altogether different making noise, like a loose part, broken exhaust clamp...etc, look around for a source before going to extremes. I had a new noise develop after an oil change this spring, took me most of an hour to realize my coffee cup had no rubber backing on the bottom, and it was rattling in my cup holder. It pains me to admit that.
Good luck with the hunt.
J/K it could be that there is something altogether different making noise, like a loose part, broken exhaust clamp...etc, look around for a source before going to extremes. I had a new noise develop after an oil change this spring, took me most of an hour to realize my coffee cup had no rubber backing on the bottom, and it was rattling in my cup holder. It pains me to admit that.
Good luck with the hunt.
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What issues if any can having the oil level right on the top full mark on the dipstick for a hot check?
This is the level I show on my 2012 SG when checking hot on the jiffy stand after I did and oil change.
I don't noticed any oil coming from the A/C, but believe it or not the engine valve train noise sounds louder since the oil change.
I used the same oil and filter that was previously installed HD 20W50 conventional and the HD superpremium filter.
Is there any reason that I should have more valve train noise after this oil change?????
This is the level I show on my 2012 SG when checking hot on the jiffy stand after I did and oil change.
I don't noticed any oil coming from the A/C, but believe it or not the engine valve train noise sounds louder since the oil change.
I used the same oil and filter that was previously installed HD 20W50 conventional and the HD superpremium filter.
Is there any reason that I should have more valve train noise after this oil change?????
The only other reason I could think of is that you've read too many threads describing valve train noise. It gets in your head and before long you too believe that you have too much noise.
Last edited by 2black1s; Oct 30, 2012 at 08:19 PM.
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I'm not a mechanic by any means, but.... according to the manual the engine takes 4 quarts dry. so with the sump holding approximately 3/4 of a quart, 3 quarts during a oil change should be a good starting point. Once warmed up, I would check the level and make sure it's not over filled. If it is, the oil will airate and the valvetrain will be noisy. Don't ask how I know this!
Is up to the full line on the dipstick when hot too full?
Trust me guys this thing is getting more noisy than before the oil change.
In fact when setting at a light once after the oil change I could hear a loud ticking, next time I stopped at a light the loud ticking was gone.
I did the stereoscope thing and both cylinders do have about the same amount of ticking.
BTW the oil pressure looks good and has not changed since new.
dc1057 you bring up a good point as the last time i checked the oil right after a long ride i did notice some bubbles on the surface of the oil. They did dissipate quickly though.
So do you think running the oil to the full line on the dipstick when hot and on the jiffy stand is over full?
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OK so how full is too full?
Is up to the full line on the dipstick when hot too full?
Trust me guys this thing is getting more noisy that before the oil change.
In fact when setting at a light once I could hear a loud ticking, next time I stopped at a light the loud ticking was gone.
BTW the oil pressure looks good and has not changed since new.
dc1057 you bring up a good point as the last time i checked the oil right after a long ride i did notice some bubbles on the surface of the oil. They did dissipate quickly though.
So do you think running the oil to the full line on the dipstick when hot and on the jiffy stand is over full?
Is up to the full line on the dipstick when hot too full?
Trust me guys this thing is getting more noisy that before the oil change.
In fact when setting at a light once I could hear a loud ticking, next time I stopped at a light the loud ticking was gone.
BTW the oil pressure looks good and has not changed since new.
dc1057 you bring up a good point as the last time i checked the oil right after a long ride i did notice some bubbles on the surface of the oil. They did dissipate quickly though.
So do you think running the oil to the full line on the dipstick when hot and on the jiffy stand is over full?
Again. In addition to reading too many "noise" threads, you've probably read too many "run your oil a half a quart low" threads also. I'm telling you, this stuff gets in your head and you'll imagine problems that are not problems at all.
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No! If the full mark was too full, don't you think the engineers would have moved the full mark a little lower? It's a full mark, not an overfull mark.
Again. In addition to reading too many "noise" threads, you've probably read too many "run your oil a half a quart low" threads also. I'm telling you, this stuff gets in your head and you'll imagine problems that are not problems at all.
Again. In addition to reading too many "noise" threads, you've probably read too many "run your oil a half a quart low" threads also. I'm telling you, this stuff gets in your head and you'll imagine problems that are not problems at all.
Can you write me a prescription for some Zoloft?
Thanks for the advise.
Anyway I just drained 8 ozs out of the crankcase, and we will see if this makes any difference once it arms up a bit.
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And I'm not trying to be a smart ***. I swear when you read about a problem often enough, you start to feel, or at least suspect, that you must have that problem too.
Do you know how many things I have checked on my bike because of threads I've read here? And do you know how many were actually a real problem. Not zero, but close.
Now, If draining 8 ozs. of oil out of your motor quiets your valve train, then maybe you really do need some Zoloft LOL.