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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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I have the extended warranty plan. Would going with a non HD cam effect the warraty?



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Non HD cam I believe would affect warranty
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kokes58
I have the extended warranty plan. Would going with a non HD cam effect the warraty?

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Yes, it would void the warranty. That's why I stick with SE, otherwise I'd be using the TW222. I really think you'd be happy with the SE-255.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kokes58
I have the extended warranty plan. Would going with a non HD cam effect the warraty?

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Yes.. in fact, most HD cams will void the warranty.

When I purchased my new Ultra Limited, I wanted cams installed when I picked it up. I also wanted the warranty to remain in effect, since I was gonna ride it cross country.

According to the dealer, I would need a Harley-Davidson cam that WAS NOT labelled "for race application only", and if installed by a dealer, it would be covered under the warranty.

I purchased my bike in May 2012 and the only two HD cams at that time that were not labelled "for race application only" were the 255 and 254E cams. (per Screamin Eagle Catalog)

During a visit to another dealer, for an LED turn signal warranty replacement, he commented that the dealer I purchased from listed all the extras they added at time of delivery into the computer. He said it shows all the extras are covered under warranty, including the 255 cams.

Just an FYI
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 03:07 AM
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For a straight bolt in,can't beat the Crane1-6000
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 03:19 AM
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With the Extended Warranty Program you may be limited as to what
will be covered and what will not..... May want to talk with your service manager first and see if they cover any of your choices.

A short list to consider....SE 255, Andrews 48h, Feuling 525, Fuel Moto 222..just my
Looks like you have some homework to do and not much time to do it in !!!
Have fun and good luck with your choice..........
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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That depends on you HD service Mgr...mine hasn't denied anything yet in almost 6 years.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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The lag in your throttle they can fix when they dyno it. Its a percentage factor they can increase "or decrease, i cant remember which way"in the ecm.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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The SE255 is the most popular bagger cam for late-model TC engines ('07>) with Stage I mods (tuner and AC), as it increases torque down low and in the midrange impressively while boosting peak performance moderately over stock. The old yarn we hear in these cam threads that they will "run out of steam" at 4000rpm (or whatever) is not an accurate description of the cams' behavior, IMO. Compared to a 204 or most any other performance cam on the market it will not perform as well on the top-end (5000+), but I don't call that "running out of steam" since properly tuned it should produce a 5% boost in peak HP over Stage I. If you'll look at a torque curve of any well-tuned 96/255 setup you'll see a nice, flat shape all the way to the 6200-rpm redline, peaking at around 5500.

The SE204 is a very good cam, but I believe it will need a bit more compression to work well without losing low-end response. If you had a 103 it would be a good choice, IMO, and the same goes for the Wood 222. While the Andrews 48H was created in response to the popularity of the SE255 it will stretch the right side of the torque curve more, and IMO would also be a good choice, as would be the S&S 551 "Easy Start" cam. I haven't seen a chart on a 96/222 combo yet and couldn't comment on that pairing without more info, but I can attest that it does work well in a 103.

The nice thing about the 255 is that you can find CVO pulls on Ebay for about $150, which makes it a great bang-for-the-buck upgrade for a Stage I engine. Do the work yourself and you can do a cam upgrade for around $200-250. I did that 3½ years ago and it transformed my bike. Also be advised that whatever cam you choose, to get the most from the upgrade you'll need to have the normal Stage I mods (tuner, AC, and exhaust), and a re-tune is a must.
 

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Originally Posted by mgmmgm
Non HD cam I believe would affect warranty
No it wouldn't.
If anything ever happened, it would have to be proved that the cam was the cause of what ever the issue was, but not using HD parts will not affect the warranty.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by iclick
The SE255 is the most popular bagger cam for late-model TC engines ('07>) with Stage I mods (tuner and AC), as it increases torque down low and in the midrange impressively while boosting peak performance moderately over stock. The old yarn we hear in these cam threads that they will "run out of steam" at 4000rpm (or whatever) is not an accurate description of the cams' behavior, IMO. Compared to a 204 or most any other performance cam on the market it will not perform as well on the top-end (5000+), but I don't call that "running out of steam" since properly tuned it should produce a 5% boost in peak HP over Stage I. If you'll look at a torque curve of any well-tuned 96/255 setup you'll see a nice, flat torque curve all the way to the 6200-rpm redline, peaking at around 5500.

The SE204 is a very good cam, but I believe it will need a bit more compression to work well without losing low-end response. If you had a 103 it would be a good choice, IMO, and the same goes for the Wood 222. While the Andrews 48H was created in response to the popularity of the SE255 it will stretch the right side of the torque curve more, and IMO would also be a good choice, as would be the S&S 551 "Easy Start" cam. I haven't seen a chart on a 96/222 combo yet and couldn't comment on that pairing without more info, but I can attest that it does work well in a 103.

The nice thing about the 255 is that you can find CVO pulls on Ebay for about $150, which makes it a great bang-for-the-buck upgrade for a Stage I engine. Do the work yourself and you can do a cam upgrade for around $200-250. I did that 3½ years ago and it transformed my bike. Also be advised that whatever cam you choose, to get the most from the upgrade you'll need to have the normal Stage I mods (tuner, AC, and exhaust), and a re-tune is a must.
Here ya go iclick, right off FM's website:

http://fuelmotousa.com/dynocharts/tw222Gregg.jpg
 
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