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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Think about it. Bad economy, noise laws passed and/or enforced. Almost every Harley is a fail. Low hanging fine fruit is every bike on the road. Maybe they get more money by impounding your scoot ? Either way it is coming and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it but pay the money. The near future could have no loud bikes and no guns especially the horrible "assault" ones. God Bless America, where your vote don't mean a fuc#, Obama healthcare, people on the fed tit everywhere and the middle class is the one really getting butt effed. Thank you all who voted for Obama, not that your votes or anyones really mattered
 
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OldPhat
Thank to ABATE California Motorcyclist will get a watered down SB-435. I rember back in the 60's
the Cal. EPA wanted somg controls, now all 50 States have some sort of somg controls on
cars & motorcycles {Cats in the headpipes.} Remember as California goes so will the rest of the 49 States.
You are wrong on every count, except the thanks to ABATE part.

The Federal Clean Air Act of 1963 is the reason they started putting pollution controls on cars. There was no Cal EPA in the 60's. There was a very non powerful Air Resources Board.

The Federal Clean Air Act of 1970 and the subsequent 1977, 1990 and 1997 amendments brought us to where we are today. Because of the air pollution problems in the LA Basin, California started requiring exhaust emission controls beginning on domestically produced vehicles in 1966. The rest of the country was already required to have exhaust emission controls in 1968. If you really want to place blame, look east.

Nearly every rule that California has imposed has been required by the USEPA. The states that already meet the air quality standards imposed by the feds do not have to impose the same rules. We barely got out of smogging bikes. The USEPA wanted it but we were able to trade it away. They have to smog check bikes in Arizona.
 

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bigheadted
Obama healthcare, people on the fed tit everywhere and the middle class is the one really getting butt effed. Thank you all who voted for Obama, not that your votes or anyones really mattered
here we go...blame everything on obama. You die tomorrow, its obama fault. you hit the lotto for 500 million of a 600 million jackpot and its obama fault that you didnt get the other 100 million. You get to keep your guns and obama could even give you an extra gun just for your trouble and it would be obama fault because he didnt give you the bullets or pull the trigger for you. WTF!!! does anything obama does with guns have to do with this thread about exhaust? You are a f*cking idiot!!! and im glad that america is slipping out of your hands and into the hands of people like me who have a little more than a backwoods education and some faux news common sense (bet you dont know what faux is). Please inform us about the cvo mufflers and what they have done for you and what your experience with them is or shut the f*ck up about obama and take that sh*t to the political section. God bless my america that i fought two wars for and god bless the obama president that i voted for. Good riddance!! oh yeah stupid, read the sig pic too while you are at it.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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here we go...blame everything on obama. You die tomorrow, its obama fault. you hit the lotto for 500 million of a 600 million jackpot and its obama fault that you didnt get the other 100 million. You get to keep your guns and obama could even give you an extra gun just for your trouble and it would be obama fault because he didnt give you the bullets or pull the trigger for you. WTF!!! does anything obama does with guns have to do with this thread about exhaust? You are a f*cking idiot!!! and im glad that america is slipping out of your hands and into the hands of people like me who have a little more than a backwoods education and some faux news common sense (bet you dont know what faux is). Please inform us about the cvo mufflers and what they have done for you and what your experience with them is or shut the f*ck up about obama and take that sh*t to the political section. God bless my america that i fought two wars for and god bless the obama president that i voted for. Good riddance!! oh yeah stupid, read the sig pic too while you are at it.
Where I didn't vote for Obama, I do agree that he had nothing to do with SB 435 (which BTW was signed into law by a Republican Governor who rides a Harely). I do think however that that one cannot stress one's own intelligence by using name calling in response to someone with a differing view. After reading your rant, I take issue with the fact that you are even allowed to vote at all, irrespective of who you choose to vote for.

Oh and faux is French for false. So I'm not really understanding what faux (false) news common sense means.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryS63
For those that think it is their freedom no matter what and when, answer me this. If Buba and his hopped up diesel truck stops beside you and he sits and rev's it and rolls his black smoke all over you is it his freedom or is he an ***?
Buba would be an *** in that example, but, ya know what, I will get over it.
I would know next time to not to let him near me, and hope he chokes on his soot.

I am certainly not gonna whine and make it so Buba can't do what he is doin.

Whatever happened to live and let live?

Now if your throttling on your wife within ear shot of me, thats a whole nother story.
But again, I have enough things in my life to take up my time rather than worrying about what someone else is doing.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Eshaw301
here we go...blame everything on obama. You die tomorrow, its obama fault. you hit the lotto for 500 million of a 600 million jackpot and its obama fault that you didnt get the other 100 million. You get to keep your guns and obama could even give you an extra gun just for your trouble and it would be obama fault because he didnt give you the bullets or pull the trigger for you. WTF!!! does anything obama does with guns have to do with this thread about exhaust? You are a f*cking idiot!!! and im glad that america is slipping out of your hands and into the hands of people like me who have a little more than a backwoods education and some faux news common sense (bet you dont know what faux is). Please inform us about the cvo mufflers and what they have done for you and what your experience with them is or shut the f*ck up about obama and take that sh*t to the political section. God bless my america that i fought two wars for and god bless the obama president that i voted for. Good riddance!! oh yeah stupid, read the sig pic too while you are at it.
..evidently, you forgot what you "fought" those 2 wars for..one guy spouts off, you disagree with him..so what do you do?...you completely insult anyone who is a Republican by calling them trash names?...you are exactly what's wrong with the pathetic left..nasty, insulting, snobs, who think they have it all figured out....drop dead punk....
 
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 11:37 PM
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Eshaw 301 = another big bad assed sh#T taking internet tough guy threatening people he has never seen from all the way across the country. I lived in Albany Georgia a few years and there were some nice folks there indeed, good patriotic Americans some of them.More ignorant backwards morons that imaginable though, just my opinion. Faux isn't that something that resembles something Real?? Thank you for your service and fighting in 2 wars for us, nothing quite like making that final decision to volunteer your life for a few years to serve the Country. Without peole like you protecting our rights I would not be able to express my own opinion freely. Semper Fi Shitbag !
 
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mike5511

Geez!! You had me worried!! It's California.....tell me when it happens in America!
 

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Well this has been fun! Whatever happens in CA eventually slides down hill, apparently, to the rest of us...so beware!! bigheadted & jmacdonald5....
 
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 03:15 AM
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I hope that this isn't the scale tipping. I am stationed in Japan and every two years there is an inspection cars and bikes must go through and decibel reading on the bikes is one aspect of it. Save your stock parts! It turns into a big game of putting OEM stuff on your scoot and then change it back to how you like your ride after the inspection
 
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