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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrmnvtwins
First I would suggest that your cooler is designed for 100% open area and the screens you have proposed will be taking away your coolers ability to cool the oil. I don't see where you have identified the wire Guage or dimeter but have specified opening sizes with 25% to 52% open area. Imagine if you will that your oil is a huge heat sink and the more restrictive you cooler screen is the less the cooler is able to cool the oil. Also the oil will continue to have heat added by the motor and eponentially the heat stored in the oil will overtake the coolers abilities... but I would really think about the disadvantages of restricting your coolers air flow.
Did you read post 18 by chance? Your post seems perfectly logical and is exactly what I would expect, but the testing I did says otherwise. My testing led me to the conclusion that the oil cooler's mechanical design is a much bigger contributor to the cooler's efficiency than moderate increases or decreases in airflow.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
Did you read post 18 by chance? Your post seems perfectly logical and is exactly what I would expect, but the testing I did says otherwise. My testing led me to the conclusion that the oil cooler's mechanical design is a much bigger contributor to the cooler's efficiency than moderate increases or decreases in airflow.
May be off base here but.... 25 - 55% reduction in airflow is not moderate in my book
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Over 50k mi and 10 years on this oil cooler with no added protection. Maybe 20% of the miles ridden are on gravel too.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrmnvtwins
May be off base here but.... 25 - 55% reduction in airflow is not moderate in my book
I'll agree that "moderate" is a subjective and relative term so maybe this will clarify.

In my testing I measured oil temperatures with airflows between 31.2 and 52.5 CFM, a 68% increase from low to high, and saw no measurable oil temperature change under otherwise exactly identical test conditions.

Like I said, before conducting my testing I thought exactly as you. I fully expected the increase in airflow to have an effect on cooler efficiency, but it did not. And the results I'm reporting are not simply observations I made while riding my bike down the road (where there are many uncontrollable variations present). They are the results of highly controlled, laboratory quality test processes.
 

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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrmnvtwins
May be off base here but.... 25 - 55% reduction in airflow is not moderate in my book
You are off-base. You're talking about a reduction in area, which is not a 1 to 1 relationship with airflow.

2black1s, just curious, did you notice any temperature difference in the cooler fins? Mathematically, did you expect any measurable change?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aces25
... 2black1s, just curious, did you notice any temperature difference in the cooler fins? Mathematically, did you expect any measurable change?
No and no.

Measuring cooler fin temperature was outside the scope of my testing.

As for mathematical expectations, I didn't really have any. The testing wasn't done to validate any preliminary mathematical modeling.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
No and no.

Measuring cooler fin temperature was outside the scope of my testing.

As for mathematical expectations, I didn't really have any. The testing wasn't done to validate any preliminary mathematical modeling.
I size up air blast coolers for hydraulic applications regularly. What you are saying is quite right, but it also depends on which region of the coolers heat dissipation capacity you were working, as the correlation between dissipation and air flow is certainly non linear. When you get to the top end you can throw as much air as you want but it won't make a blind bit of difference. Equally so you can double oil flow and you may even start going backwards as the heat generated by the pressure drop across the cooler is great than the increased capacity you hope to achieve.
 
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Duplicate post deleted - wifi sucks!!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
Setting aside why you feel the need for an engineer or an oil cooler, where is this being installed on your bike? Can we have a photo or link, so we can size up the problem? deflecting debris using baffles is more desirable than part covering the cooler with a screen, I suggest.
Its a stock Harley cooler. Its the same one they put on the the 103 motors. Mounts down under the regulator. I have a 2010 Street Glide with the 96.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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What will be the shape of the screen?
 
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