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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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got my 09 rk dynoed after i did a stage 1(pcv, v&h turn down exh and true dual heads, fuel moto air intake, screaming eagle plugs and wires) i dont know what my bike was stock and just making sure these numbers sound good and right after everything is all said and done.


max hp-75
max torque-86
afr looks like its around 13.0-13.5< is this too rich?


afr seems pretty rich from what im reading, these numbers ok?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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13-13.5 on a wide-open throttle pull is right where it should be.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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That sounds about right, a stage I is your best bang for your bucks deal any how.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Wow. Changed exhaust, heads and intake to get 75 hp and 86 ft/lb of torque? I'm new to HD but this is quite surprising.

I have a 103. I haven't dyno'd it yet and probably won't. With the exception of mixture, I prefer my butt dyno to performance measurements (HP and torque). What matters to me is how well the engine runs and how well it pulls my wife and I up to speed and maintains that speed as I go up hills (which we have quite a few in Kentucky).

Based upon literature, I'm expecting that my 103 is making 75 hp or so and 100 ft/lb or so of torque at the crank. I suspect that I might be disappointed if I actually dyno'd it though. My butt dyno tells me that I'm probably not getting 100 ft/lb of torque. I find that the engine bogs in 5th (forget 6th) on moderate hills and that I have to shift down to keep the bike in the 2,500 RPM (or better) range. My air-cooled 1987 800 cc BMW actually pulls hills two-up better than my 103 (over 1600cc) HD. I haven't spent thousands of dollars on the BMW for new pipes, heads, cylinders, intakes, etc. It's box stock.

I'm not trashing the HD as I love the bike, but can't help but wonder why more torque and horsepower isn't produced by these engines.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Kentucky you read it wrong, ( and he could have said it better too.) It's just a Stage I, No heads. I think he meant true dual head pipes.

75 hp is adequate.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Kentucky you read it wrong, ( and he could have said it better too.) It's just a Stage I, No heads. I think he meant true dual head pipes.

75 hp is adequate.
Yup, just re-read it. By 'heads' he meant head pipes.

I've owned 175 hp bikes (1300cc) so 75 sure doesn't seem 'adequate' for a bike with almost 1700cc. More importantly, I would expect a $25K motorcycle with over 1600cc to produce enough torque to pull my wife and I up a moderate hill without shifting down. Again, very satisfied with the bike, just surprised that it doesn't pull any better than it does.
 

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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Now to change the subject a bit, now that it's dynoed and has a base map to work off of, is the dynojet autotuner worth the money?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveMKentucky
Yup, just re-read it. By 'heads' he meant head pipes.

I've owned 175 hp bikes (1300cc) so 75 sure doesn't seem 'adequate' for a bike with almost 1700cc. More importantly, I would expect a $25K motorcycle with over 1600cc to produce enough torque to pull my wife and I up a moderate hill without shifting down. Again, very satisfied with the bike, just surprised that it doesn't pull any better than it does.
The specs on your 103 is 100 ft/lb @ 3250 rpm. That would be measured at the crank. Rear wheel torque will probably be between 80 and 90 ft/lb. The stock 103 lends itself well to being awakened with very little effort. Air cleaner, exhaust, and a cam like the TW-222 will give you tractor like torque.
Now to change the subject a bit, now that it's dynoed and has a base map to work off of, is the dynojet autotuner worth the money?
You've had it dynoed, if you were going to do that you should have spent the dyno money on the auto-tune. I don't think you would see much improvement.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Ok that's what I thought thanks for the input
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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An autotuner works by monitoring the exhaust and optimising air/fuel ratio. That is not the same as a dyno tune, which does check that, but also measures power and torque at the rear wheel. Adjustments to air/fuel ratio can improve performance where the autotuner may not give the best results.

IMHO you did the right thing getting your bike dynoed. While an autotuner may give great results, I would expect a dyno tune to definitely give better results.
 
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