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Old May 8, 2013 | 06:56 AM
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OK I think I know the answer to this question , but I need to ask just to make sure.
If I understand correctly tranny lube can't leak from the tranny into the primary unless the tranny output shaft is hollow and then the tranny lube may run into the primary if the tranny is overfilled.

Is this correct?
 

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Old May 8, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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You can get primary oil into the engine if the crank seal leeks this I know.
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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I'm having engine oil running into the primary. Waiting for dealer to get parts to correct it. It's been doing it straight from the factory!
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by P51Driver
OK I think I know the answer to this question , but I need to ask just to make sure.
If I understand correctly tranny lube can't leak from the tranny into the primary unless the tranny output shaft is hollow and then the tranny lube may run into the primary if the tranny is overfilled.

Is this correct?
Well the output shaft is hollow because that is what the clutch actuation rod runs through and I guess if you way over filled the tranny fluid could run through it. If you have a tranny seal leaking you could have tranny fluid in the primary. I would doubt that a year old bike would have a bad tranny seal, but like the previous poster said, his has been leaking motor oil into the primary since new, so anything is possible. Isn't it still under warranty?
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by $tonecold
Well the output shaft is hollow because that is what the clutch actuation rod runs through and I guess if you way over filled the tranny fluid could run through it. If you have a tranny seal leaking you could have tranny fluid in the primary. I would doubt that a year old bike would have a bad tranny seal, but like the previous poster said, his has been leaking motor oil into the primary since new, so anything is possible. Isn't it still under warranty?
But the tranny seal doesn't come in contact with the inner primary housing.
If the tranny seal was leaking wouldn't the tranny lube be leaking in between the tranny and the inner primary housing behind the transmission belt sprocket?
In other words, the tranny and the inner primary housing don't share a common seal so if i am correct tranny lube couldn't leak into the primary via the shaft seals.
 

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Originally Posted by P51Driver
But the tranny seal doesn't come in contact with the inner primary housing.
If the tranny seal was leaking wouldn't the tranny lube be leaking in between the tranny and the inner primary housing behind the transmission belt sprocket?
In other words, the tranny and the inner primary housing don't share a common seal so if i am correct tranny lube couldn't leak into the primary via the shaft seals.
It appears you are correct, the transmission and inner primary both have their own seals. That would mean that the only passage that could transfer oil would be the clutch rod passage in the main shaft, I guess. I haven't heard of this happening before.
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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My 07 ultra did it.
started leaking at the primary, at the seam underneath.
It was a warranty issue. After replacing the seal it never leaked again.
How do you over fill the transmission?
It holds one quart when drained.
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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I just had my tranny apart there is no seal that I seen that keeps the oil from running down the clutch actuator rod. Oil does fill/flow through the bearings into the side of the RH cover

You would have to really overfill the tranny. It only takes a quart. Drain it fill it with one quart and add some red food coloring dye
 
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Originally Posted by dirtdobber
How do you over fill the transmission?
It holds one quart when drained.
Maybe 1 quart works for your bike, not mine. My bike won't hardly register on the dip stick with 1 quart. I think I actually ended up with 22 oz's to bring it to the middle of the dip stick.
 

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Originally Posted by KCFLHRC
Maybe 1 quart works for your bike, not mine. My bike won't hardly register on the dip stick with 1 quart. I think I actually ended up with 22 oz's to bring it to the middle of the dip stick.
Well beings 32 oz = 1 quart then it would seem you are underfilling your trans with 22 oz's
 
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